mo64

Is no.1 Bruce Stumpy Laird?

Is 10. Mick Malone. Wouldn't select him. Mal (sick) one.

Go for it. I had a couple of thoughts on 6, but once again clutching at straws. Tony Dodemaide or Darren Lehmann.

Try Callum Ferguson if Bob Massie is incorrect.

2. Nathan Lyon. Anagram of only is Lyon

6. Ashton Agar. A Sparkling (sh) Hundred (ton). Clutching at straws.

3. Ashley Mallett. Hard hitter.

If Goody or any first time coach took over from Neeld, and had Roos' record of finishing 17th, 13th, 11th and lost their final game by 111 points, they would have been sacked. If the subsequent coach took us to a flag, would you be giving the plaudits to that coach, as you are with Roos?

I just want to refute this narrative that Paul Roos developed young talent, and changed the club culture. I suggest you listen to a podcast by Dylan Buckley with James Harmes, which was recorded in the week leading up to the GF. Harmes said that when he started at the club, which was the same time as Roos, the young players weren't given any guidance as to how and where they would fit into the senior team. They would just play for Casey and hope they could break in. Now all the young players are given clear guidance as to where they'll fit into the team, and what they need to do to achieve that. Case in point is Jason Taylor coming out and saying Van Rooyan will be developed as a forward. I'd also suggest you listen to Dylan Buckley's podcast with Max Gawn. It goes for over an hour, and covers a lot about the club. When asked who changed the culture of the club, Max said one word, "Goody". When talking about Roos, Max laughs and says that the players loved it when Roos arrived. After training 9-5 under Neeld, Max says that Roos was a family man, so would leave training at 1PM. So the players would leave after him. And listening to a recent interview with Goody, the only compliment he gave Roos was to say that he delegated authority. This narrative that Roos changed the culture, and was a big factor in our flag win, has to stop.

Chris Johnson was in the rooms after the game.

Been a long time absentee, but constant lurker. Thanks for showing this. That's me talking to Strawbs O'Dwyer at the end of the game. 1:30:10. I met his sister whilst backpacking, and spent a week travelling together.

Laurie Fowler (3 Blueys) in for Yeats, and Sean Wight in for Hughes. Tingay ahead of all those listed on interchange and emergencies. And Garry Baker on the bench as 2nd ruckman.

If you had of included the bolded sentence in your Goodwin critique, and detailed the flaws of the team under Roos, I wouldn't have come to the opinion that you are being excessively harsh on a 1st year coach. Roos left us with some underlying issues within the team's culture, which Goodwin is trying to address. And you are putting all the pressure on Goodwin with lines like: "We are in 'hashtag noexcuses' territory." But as you say, this debate is for another topic.

And yet you annointed Roos the Greatest Caretaker Coach ever. 2016 we had a full list under Roos and won 10 games. 2017 we were hit hard by injuries to key players and won 12 games. Even if we played finals, you would have given the credit to Roos.

To all the Goodwin critics, surely it's an endorsement of him, when the best out of contract player available in this trade period has chosen the MFC. Whilst money may or may not have been a factor, his future coach would definitely have been a major factor in his decision.

We won't get pick 20 for Watts. It will be more like pick 33.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading-and-drafting/jake-levers-switch-from-adelaide-to-melbourne-edging-closer-20171010-gyy66o.html We're getting closer. This years 1st rounder and next years 1st rounder for Lever plus pick 18 which Adelaide get for Cameron. Seems like swapping of other picks as well. This will leave us without a 1st rounder next year, but picks 18 and 27 this year isn't too bad.

By the CEO's own admission, Lever telling the club a month earlier of his intentions to leave, the club was able to up it's offer to McGovern, and re-sign him. I'm thinking the angst towards Lever has been initiated by Tex.

His value is dictated by the market. You may think that Hogan is worth $500k based on deeds, but that would be an insult when Freo may be offering $1m.

Well the plot thickens. Aaron Francis has requested a trade back to Adelaide (the city), and he's still under contract. Surely the righteous AFC wouldn't dare trade for a player of such moral standing. Francis has only been at Essendon 2 years.

I suppose the Crows angst towards Lever is similar to ours and Scully. Both had only been at the club a short time, which makes it harder to accept. At least Lever told the club a month ago of his decision, which allowed them to up their offer to McGovern. I just don't understand why AFL clubs and the players, have a hard time reconciling with losing a player, when every year they are all out to poach players from other clubs. The Storm actually allowed the 4 players who were leaving the club to lead the side off the ground in their Prelim win, which was their final home game. It was so the crowd could thank the players for their service, and vice versa.

That was also mentioned.

No. Take out the pick 14. We give up 10, 27 and Watts for Lever and 35.

Only if they're on the market and we are their club of choice.

When a high quality young key position player expresses interest in joining your club, you jump at the chance. And which quality mids are on the market?