mo64

I agree that a handy player is more desirable than a 2nd rd pick, but the machinations of luring a decent GWS player needed to occur before King had the meeting with Clarry. I don't believe that the decision to shop Clarry was solely King's. He's basically just walked through the door. The $700k pa we're paying would be a List Manager's decision, and something that was probably ratified by Guera and Green. Again, it's not a decision that's made on the spot after King's meeting with Clarry. I don't have confidence in our List Manager to believe that we'll be adequately compensated for Clarry.

Jesse Hogan and Toby Bedford.

I'd say that Flanders had committed to joining the Saints for some time. He gave King the courtesy of a catchup, but his mind was made up.

Can't see TDK and Marshall in the same team. A future pick could be on the cards.

Two time winner of the Coaches Award. It's weird that a player with so many weaknesses was valued by so many coaches. Goodwin's "chaos ball" has a lot to do with the ridiculous Demonland narrative that Petracca and Oliver can't hit targets.

You don't acquire players from other clubs by being conservative with contracts. Especially when the Saints immediate future seems more promising. King's role would be to sell the club. He wouldn't have any input on contracts.

Hats off to you Demon Forever. I was skeptical. But the fact that he is also meeting with 3 other clubs in a concern.

Journos are more in the know than Fan Forum sources. I'm not surprised. Flanders having a courtesy coffee with King and Jones this morning was probably to tell them of his decision.

No offence, but you also said that Flanders is coming our way. The Saints telling Steele to look elsewhere suggests otherwise. At this time of year player managers aren't bluffing, and it makes no sense for GC to trade Humphrey even for Trac.

You are dreaming. You honestly believe that there is an A grader out there who is seeking to join a club that is in rebuild mold? And our record of attracting talent to the club has been so good under Tim Lamb, lol.

How about we just hold Trac and Clarry to their contracts. There is a reason why the Saints want to let Jack Steele go. But nothing surprises me when it comes to our recruitment of players from other clubs.

So within the space of an hour, we've been told by a source that we are getting Humphrey and Flanders, to now being unlikely to get either. I think the maligned journalists have a better record than Demonland sources.

Straight swap for Wade Derksen.

Pretty sure Nick Stevens nominated Collingwood, and the deal didn't get done, so he nominated for the PSD and ended up at Carlton. PS: The bloke was the biggest piece of excrement in AFL history.

Let's see if the club is legit or all talk and no action. Flanders and Humphrey are both still under contract. GC can stipulate that either player has to move to us as part of the Trac deal, and vice versa. Getting pick 6 or 7 would be a massive fail for a club that is saying Trac only gets traded for a massive offer.

I feel for Steven King. Based on the interview, the club is in "win now" mode, but most rational football followers would see us in a rebuild. Both Richmond and Hawthorn had a clearout of players post dynasty, and the next coach was hired to start the rebuild, with no expectation of playing finals. Should we lose Trac, Clarry, May and McVee, with Viney and Lever on the decline, T Mac and Melksham on their last legs, King would need to be a miracle worker to make the finals in 2026. I still believe that if Trac and Clarry remain at the club, and we get Flanders, finals is still a possibility with a refreshed game plan. But with a mass exodus of players, I think King is on a hiding to nothing.

Not fussed if it's true. A lot happens in a year. Derksen is supposedly a swingman, yet couldn't get a game despite GWS having heaps of injuries to key backs and forwards.

We had Houston all but signed last year. He wasn't cheap.

Exactly. The fact that Dannyz is also aware of a scheduled meeting means that the leak has come from within the club, not from a player manager. Posters on here constantly blame the media for destabilising the club. Some are even blaming Trac's management ffs. The perception of the club being a basket case is vindicated with all the leaks. It's little wonder that we can't recruit anyone decent from another club.

And Taylor isn't watching Dunstan, Grundy, Hunter, Billings, Schache, Fullarton, McAdam playing for their respective AFL clubs. These players are known AFL commodities, and have been the biggest problem with our recruiting. Lamb would be more involved with their acquisitions than Taylor. And I fear that we'll be talking about Mihocek in the same light.

Did Jamie lie to you?

So who's role is it to coordinate all the scouts around the country? And do you seriously think that JT is talking to player managers from other clubs? The coaches would be well aware of the capabilities of players on other lists. The ins and outs of contracts would fall under Lamb. Do you think that Lamb spends all year just updating his salary cap spreadsheet?

The home cooking must be better in WA.

JT's role involves monitoring players who are not on AFL lists. He's not attending AFL games, and speaking with player managers to determine who is gettable. That is Tim Lamb's role. In order to recruit a player from another club, you would need to know their salary demands and how it would need to be structured to fit in our cap. Once again, that is Tim Lamb's role. Sure, Lamb wouldn't be working alone, but recruits from other clubs comes under his role, not JT.

When the President, CEO and coach all get the sack, then the AFL media will see the club as a basket case. Let's hope that we can turn things round quickly like the Pies did after the same things happened to them. The media saw them as a basket case when they had a fire sale of players, and they missed out on Voss as their first choice as coach. They won a flag 2 years later.