Geddy Lee

We're cooked now.

We don't even shepherd. The basics aren't there. Depressing game.

They run twice as fast these days.

Mark Maclure, a lifelong Carlton man, just stated Ratts will not be there next year. I'd welcome him back. With Viney, 2 new other gun midfielders, Jones, Grimes and depth players, what might he do with a fresh outlook?

What's the best place to read information about these guys; i.e. teams, positions, height etc.

NO he certainly isn't. *wink wink*

1. West Coast lost there. 2. We lost our 2 best players before the game and a key backman 5 minutes into the match. 3. Read points 1 and 2 repeatedly until understood.

Jesus Christ monkey balls. These are dark times to be an MFC supporter.

Bitterly disappointed I ain't. We had most of our best players out and a loss was to be expected really against a much better side at their home playing for finals. Will look forward to never seeing Dunn or Bate play for MFC again. NQRs, always have been. Moloney was appalling again. Col Sylvia was unsurprisingly average. Magner had a little comedy act thing going on. All wonderfully MFC 2012.

Overly convoluted discussion RE: Viney. We'll either take him with #3 or a second round pick. We will NOT not take him. It's critical to our success that it's the second rounder, but someone will probably bend us over. The endgame is half a season away.

I happen to think Bryce Gibbs is rubbish too. Between 4 number 1 picks: Watts, Scully, Kruezer, Gibbs The MFC and Carlton haven't exactly unearthed any superstars.

If he gets back, it will be a bonus for us. He's not the game changer M. Clark is. He's the icing on top.

David Schwartz 98% sure Cloke has signed with the Pies.

Clark and Howe are forwards. The rest are hard to rely on, for a multitude of reasons.

Exquisite pun.

It was bittersweet to see Sylvia, Davey, Dunn, Bate et al doing so well against rubbish opposition when there was no pressure, just as it will be painfully familiar when they all go missing next week.

Is there a way to watch the replay on the AFL site, or does that get uploaded later in the week?

Are you serious? You have to earn that over many years. Scully had some powderpuff pieces in the media about loyalty in the last 24 months too.

Ricky P is GAWN

Cook, Gys, Strauss, Tynan, Davis - our kids are such . . . kids. Like the look of Strauss and Gys so far. SME giving an extreme experience so far.

His knees are absolutely shot. I hope whatever he does is best for his future. Hobbling at 25 is rather terrifying.

Winner.

They have met, but only one Melbourne player was there, and GWS forgot to invite everyone else.

Threads about Patton and Cameron. No chance. Other mentions of Nathan Ablett and Jack Anthony. Absolute zeros. I think we should have stuck to the Travis Cloke thread.

Gibbs was the best young player ever. So was Scully. Pre-draft hype is horse-[censored]. However prodigious, I really don't want another gangly lanky midfielder in the guts. As Matt Rendell says, it's a strong draft. Let's get explosion a la Martin, Cotchin; not exquisite skills. I'm sick of that. Ablett, Judd, Watson = big bodies, best players in the game.