Mickey

Isn't this the problem though? What are they thinking? We'll give a bloke 8 mil over 8 years but not pay the commensurate trade value? Hogan isn't a free agent, they have to give up something. I'm not saying he's worth 2 early first rounders, but he's worth more than 11 and 23, and much closer to 5, 23 and 30.

Honestly, what I think is more likely is that someone offered Morris the inside word and he took it. How else would he know what Jesse's manager asked, or that Freo are bristling internally when people say they are bluffing? I agree with you that journalists are unlikely to be untruthful on purpose. However, they all have their sources, and it seems Tom is only reporting one side of the story.

Spoken like a true lurking Fox Footy 'reporter'. Seriously though, while I agree they may not be pushing a hidden agenda, it is entirely possible they are being fed by a particular club for a reason.

Me thinks Tom Morris has become Freo's mouthpiece. The logic of the article is off. 'Jesse came to us and said he was relatively keen, but wanted $8mil over 8 years. I mean, it's not like he's a good player or we are poo, so how dare he?! Then Melbourne asked for 2 first rounders as well! Not like he's a good player or anything. Must be a trap! So we offered a first rounder and a second, and when they said no we rejected their trade (?) And now we are really angry if people question if we are bluffing, coz we are definitely not trading for him... but if Melbourne cave we will do a trade.' Tom not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Maybe 4-5 years, until the King brother asks to come home to Melbourne. Isn't that why GC are steering clear of them?

For those worries about Preuss's fitness, it was reported on the MFC website that he is at a training camp in Utah at the moment. Looks like he is getting on with business

I'd be amazed. It's Tony Sheahan, he tends to make stuff up for the likes/reactions.

@david_neitz_is_my_dad posted a link to it about 4 to 5 pages back.

Freo are an absolute rabble. Cannot believe that, after how many years of chasing a genuine star key forward, they finally convince one to join them and then pull this. Whether it is a negotiating tactic or not, it is completely baffling. They have no idea what they are doing.

It says if they keep their first they can trade others. If they trade their first, does that effect a trade that's already happened? AFL will make it up on the fly.

Hawks fans are ropeable. Burton is a fan favourite and still only young.

Looks like some of the stuff here... maybe DV8 is really Langdon?

Boo! If someone posts a rumour based on another rumour surely they should say so.

Direct message.

Demonland: Hey Jesse, it's Demonland. We'd love to get you on our podcast. JH: Look, I'm not much of a public speaker. Is there anything else I can do to help you out? Demonland: Now that you mention it...

WC have confirmed Gaff has re-signed on Twitter.

Not that has been reported.

Yep, Carlton according to The Age

Or it took him that long to escape...

Viney yes, sorry. Not Brayshaw though, I don't think. There is a reason he missed the first three games and it isn't only concussion related. He got himself back in the team and played wondefully though

The best thing about it is Clarry know too. The talk of him driving the standards is exactly what we haven't had from our sublimely talented youngsters. He is going to be something special

He answered this in response to Barrett asking if he thought it was down to two, being North and WC. The end of the sentence was that, based on the above, Melbourne are reading it the same way. Pretty sure he was confirming that we had been told to bugger off, not let it play out. Would love to be wrong.

If you watch one speech from tonight make it Bernie's. Guy is a cracker

Guys can't even count to 10, how can we expect them to count the votes correctly?

Glad Cam is getting the recognition he deserves. Great clubman and seems like a great bloke too