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The trouble with inventing a football club in an area that has no real association with our game and among people who have no real affinity with it, is that it becomes necessary for people to invent (or reinvent) history as well. Sheedy: "People who really wrote the rules of the AFL, Tom Wills and Henry Harrison, they come from outer western Sydney, they come from out of this area, they were born here, they come from Parramatta and they went down to Melbourne and they created the rules of the AFL." Really? Well, let's test that statement. Suburban Paramatta is 23 km west of Sydney. Blacktown, which is where Sheedy's Giants will be based is a further 11km to the west. Rooty Hill which is culturally and spiritually the home of GWS is even further west. I do acknowledge that both of the game's founders, Wills and Harrison were born in New South Wales (albeit at a time when the Port Phillip colony was in it's very early stages of establishment). Most of the white folk settled in this country were New South Welshmen back in those days. But were they born "out of Paramatta"? Well ... no, not exactly there or nearby as Sheedy would have viewers believe. Wills was born near Gundagai, New South Wales to parents Horatio and Elizabeth, the first of their nine children, in 1835. Gundagai is 390 kilometres (240 mi) south-west of Sydney - it's a long way from where the dog sits on the tucker box near that delightful little town to Sydney and Paramatta. In the late 1830's it was a few day's travel by coach if you had a reason to go there. But Tom Wills almost certainly didn't come close and even if he had, there would be no boyhood memories of the place because the family moved to Lexington, a 125,000-acre (510 km2) property in the Ararat District in western Victoria in 1840 and Tom was educated at Scotch College, Melbourne. H. C. A. Harrison was born at 'Jarvisfield', near Picton, New South Wales, the son of John Harrison and his wife Jane, née Howe. But a year later, the family moved to the Port Phillip District, and took up land on the Plenty River about 20 miles (32 km) from Melbourne. Picton is a small town in the Macarthur Region of New South Wales, in the Wollondilly Shire. The town is located 80 kilometres South-west of Sydney, close to Camden and Campbelltown. It's closer to Paramatta than is Gundagai but if you know the area, the route would have been long, circuitous and dangerous in 1836-7, especially if you're carrying a one year old child. After that, the Harrisons lived near Melbourne and long after that - more than two decades later - the first rules of the game were created. And so ... yet another GWS fiction is exposed. How fitting is it that this lie is the cornerstone of this club's first promotional video?

Relax guys. He was at training yesterday, after being stuck in Alice Springs for 4 days due to the lunatic leprechaun who grounded Qantas. Neither Virgin or Tiger fly to Alice Springs so he had to wait to get a flight to Adelaide and then from there to Melbourne. He's in good shape and raring to go.

not having a go at you, but my sister was a nympho and it didn't help me at all

And to think that Dunaden did it in 3min20 secs.

11.40 - mind you, I was only 55 then

With ya all the way Chook. I reckon the kids gonna shock a few knockers over the coming years. Every one rails on about players bleeding for the club, but fail to see that Jonesy does, most only see his shortcomings (which are getting less and less). I'll hitch my wagon to yours, cause I've been on the Jones boy for a while now, and I reckon he's not far off blowing up, and I for one cannot wait

I wouldn't waste the tank he apparently has from his efforts in the recent time trial. Midfield or HBF.

Okay. Let's talk about how the team is going on the field instead. Oh wait...

Obviously he has a very short memory, or maybe thinks the rest of the world cannot remember back to his declaration of loyalty made ias recently as March 2011. I am just $0 glad that our club didn't waste money trying to outbid GW$ for the services of this disloyal mercenary little hypocrite - one wonders what his story will be in another $ix month$, especially after putting up with the antics of senile old Kev.

ouch - left myself wide open there

That's it ! He's off to Richmond ! 007 style.

Thanks for the link. I'm very impressed with him. Seems to see himself as the boss, and not trying to fit in with the players. Hopefully he gets results. What distance is the time trial over? Sounds like 3km by the expected times.

Twenty years of crawlin' was bottled up inside him. He wasn't holdin' nothin' back; he let 'em have it all. When tommy left the barroom not a Gatlin boy was standin'. He said, this ones for Becky, as he watched the last one fall. And I heard him say, "I promised you, dad, not to do the things you've done. I walk away from trouble when I can. Now please don't think I'm weak, I didn't turn the other cheek, And papa, I sure hope you understand: Sometimes you gotta fight when you're a man". Evr'yone considered him the coward of the county.

He can have a personal life, but I would have preferred he said to Anderson before the IR series "Sorry Adrian, I only get a few weeks to get maggotted with my mates and I really cherish that time so I won't be able to play IR." But he decided to 'commit' to the venture, and was keen to play as Eade said he rang every day confirming his eagerness. This is my only issue - he is not as professional as he needs to be to get the most out of himself. The rest is just him being an idiot, and he is more than welcome to be that. But he isn't professional enough for Neeld and that reaction is probably a good thing.

So you have walked back on half a year you previously claimed was disappointing, a half that is now 'ripping' but I am still wrong and somehow 'too easily impressed' after pointing out you misjudged his 2010? Sometimes you should just accept the mea culpa and leave it at that, RR...

Exactly. Nothing like letting the truth get in the way of a good story - Davey was one of our best in 2010.

Must keep for 2012. Quite possibly beyond. A senior player who gives his all...an area in which we are not exactly fully stocked. The amount he gets potted does not equate to the calibre of his performances overall.

Hard to imagine how he could possibly have had a worse year. An absolute disaster in which his confidence and reputation were all completely soiled. Must put it behind him, because he still have a big role to play in our success if he can recover from this. Has a clean slate in 2012 as far as this poster is concerned.

He's not a big fan of you, either... All I'm saying is: at the Demonland - MFC Player mixer, I think that DemonWA and Nathan should be kept seperate. Freak should run interference possibly...