Why dont we tell valenti to nominate for the draft (which he will) and pick him up with pick 43. We all knowhe can play

i dont know he can play!

he will struggle at afl level, was good when ward and pickett were the main focus at sandy but struggled in finals with attention! he will be a good vfl player! but maybe give him a chance at rookie!

Poor old VFL and the stigma it carries.

Remember, Priddis and Lynch were in the WAFL before WCE picked them up.

Westhoff aswell in the SANFL.

Give this blokes a go, can't be much worse than what C.Johnson has shown.

Also, he is behind Bell, Petterd, Whelan, Wheatley, Bode etc.

Maybe a change of club will give him a better crack.

Bailey is having one hel lof a clearout .. we all wanted something similar.. . You arent going to get an ommelette with out cracking the eggs !!

Keep clearing them out Dean!!

I for one am happy as Larry

I'd take pick 42 for CJ without hesitation. I wish the guy no ill, but he has shown little to suggest he will be an AFL standard player, and his trade value will be zero next year if not offloaded now.

Exactly

No hesitation

Then give Dean Bailey the oppourtunity to use pick 42 on the type of player he wants

I'd take pick 100 for Chris Johnson.

FFS Jaded, if we trade him, Dean Bailey traded him - wake up and join the dots!

I have no issue with trading CJ, it's what we are allegedly trading him for that I'm not happy with!

I hope we get something better than a fourth round pick, as I think CJ's value at Melbourne is higher than that.

Hasn't done much to warrant a second rounder.

That's probably what we said to Adelaide.

But, until the deal is finalised, judgements are pointless.

I have no issue with trading CJ, it's what we are allegedly trading him for that I'm not happy with!

I hope we get something better than a fourth round pick, as I think CJ's value at Melbourne is higher than that.

Isn't pick 43 in the third round not the fourth?

Isn't pick 43 in the third round not the fourth?

Yeah, getting to the end of the 3rd round

Yeah, getting to the end of the 3rd round

But only a smidge further from the second round!

Isn't pick 43 in the third round not the fourth?

Conflicting reports that we're trading him for pick 50 something may have confused me.

43 is still a very speculative pick.

We gave Adelaide 37 for a ruckman whos played 2 games, and who we could have taken for nothing in the PSD.

I just don't think we're likely to pick anything better with 43. There's always a chance, but how often does a Bartram fall through the cracks these days?

About as often as a Justin Westhoff falls to pick 71.

I have no issue with trading CJ, it's what we are allegedly trading him for that I'm not happy with!

I hope we get something better than a fourth round pick, as I think CJ's value at Melbourne is higher than that.

1. CJ's done sfa

2. Your rating of CJ is based on the proposal that Dean Bailey can extract improvement

3. if Dean Bailey trades him for a 3rd rounder then that's what he thinks he is worth to us or less

Conflicting reports that we're trading him for pick 50 something may have confused me.

43 is still a very speculative pick.

We gave Adelaide 37 for a ruckman whos played 2 games, and who we could have taken for nothing in the PSD.

I just don't think we're likely to pick anything better with 43. There's always a chance, but how often does a Bartram fall through the cracks these days?

Every year, every year there are players picked late in the draft that out perform early picks.

43 is still a very speculative pick.

I just don't think we're likely to pick anything better with 43. There's always a chance, but how often does a Bartram fall through the cracks these days?

Maybe it is being earmarked for another trade.

About as often as a Justin Westhoff falls to pick 71.

Or a Hird to 76.

CAC is a genius with late draft picks....

Rivers, Whelan, Bartram, Bruce, Newton and of course Davey in PSD

So I am actually a little excited about collecting all these picks, no matter how late they are in the draft

1. CJ's done sfa

2. Your rating of CJ is based on the proposal that Dean Bailey can extract improvement

3. if Dean Bailey trades him for a 3rd rounder then that's what he thinks he is worth to us or less

Can't disagree with point one.

I think we're all hoping that Bailey can extract improvement out of our players, otherwise why did we get him to the club?

As for point 3, I disagree with Bailey if he thinks that a 3rd round pick in the hand is better than CJ. Doesn't mean I won't support him, and I definitely won't cry myself to sleep over it.

I guess I see a lot of potential in CJ and given that we're persisting with less talented players who have been given more opportunities, it seems odd that we'd let CJ go for a low pick. We would get better picks for both Miller and Jamar.

Unfortunately Miller time is still up.

We can only hope

In a foxsports article, in passing it mentioned that we were definitely keeping Miller.

I guess I see a lot of potential in CJ and given that we're persisting with less talented players who have been given more opportunities, it seems odd that we'd let CJ go for a low pick. We would get better picks for both Miller and Jamar.

Maybe Bailey is also of the belief that CJ is terribly soft.

who do you have more faith in CAC or CJ?

I like to imagine CJ will be the next Demon late developer, like Carroll (not in team, then good average) or Bell (not in team, then good good).

From what I can gather he'll be competing for the spots vacated by Brown and Ward on the one hand and possibly TJ's on the other.

Actually, I know this is the wrong thread for this thought, but the TJ trade looks a lot more positive when you consider that it's not just pick 14, but also an opportunity for players like Buckley and CJ to find their way into the team.

We'll see what comes around.

who do you have more faith in CAC or CJ?

Umm who do you think recruited CJ? <_<

Umm who do you think recruited CJ? <_<

He was F/S 3rd round at 36 and we're talking 3rd round 43 back.

Or a Hird to 76.

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