1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

Yes it's not enough we should demand pick 7 as well Trac is proven Humphrey is not.

That's not gonna happen

26 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Delusional

Not delusional at all. FACT. Oliver has destroyed our dynasty with his culture. Petracca said in an interview that he wasn't initially happy with him but he trains hard so he has forgiven him. I seriously doubt that. I can't stand Smith I hate his guts for what he has done to this club and I'll tell his old man that if I ever see him again. Lucky for Oliver he is a premiership player so he is forgiven somewhat but I'm torn between loving him and hating him.

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

That's not gonna happen

Too many Tim Lamb's on this forum.

1 minute ago, WERRIDEE said:

Too many Tim Lamb's on this forum.

What’s wrong with Tim lamb?

7 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Not delusional at all. FACT. Oliver has destroyed our dynasty with his culture. Petracca said in an interview that he wasn't initially happy with him but he trains hard so he has forgiven him. I seriously doubt that. I can't stand Smith I hate his guts for what he has done to this club and I'll tell his old man that if I ever see him again. Lucky for Oliver he is a premiership player so he is forgiven somewhat but I'm torn between loving him and hating him.

Ultimately the footy dept is responsible for setting standards and managing player behaviours etc etc if it’s not nipped in the butt it just grows & grows…

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7 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

What’s wrong with Tim lamb?

Everything. I don't like him he prefers to get deals done than do what's best for Melbourne. I just waiting for him to stuff up the Petracca deal so I can really put the boots in.

Just now, WERRIDEE said:

Everything. I don't like him he prefers to get deals done than do what's best for Melbourne. I just waiting for him to stuff up the Petracca deal so I can really put the boots in.

I feel like his record is actually pretty good on the most part.

I think fans just look at the speculative picks and say “that low cost, speculative pickup didn’t work so Tim lamb bad”

10 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

nipped in the butt

2 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

I feel like his record is actually pretty good on the most part.

I think fans just look at the speculative picks and say “that low cost, speculative pickup didn’t work so Tim lamb bad”

Just curious on what you think about Frost and McAdam for second rounders. It's got me fuming they even said with Frost he wasn't worth pick 23 he was worth pick 45 but we done it anyway GWS wouldn't deal otherwise. DON'T PICK HIM UP THEN GO INTO THE DRAFT. He didn't say that about McAdam but I'm sure the same thing happened. To give a second rounder for a 28 year who had only played 50 games in 10 years due to injury is just crazy

I find it amusing how some posters are worried about Clarry or Trac getting back to their best or becoming even better. The major flaw in both their games is their ability to use the ball. I honestly can't recall too many players who've made significant improvement in their kicking over their careers. Once a poor kick, you're usually always a poor kick. So unless Trac or Clarry learn to kick like Errol, they'll just be your average accumulator who continue to make poor decisions and skill errors by foot.

2 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Just curious on what you think about Frost and McAdam for second rounders. It's got me fuming they even said with Frost he wasn't worth pick 23 he was worth pick 45 but we done it anyway GWS wouldn't deal otherwise. DON'T PICK HIM UP THEN GO INTO THE DRAFT. He didn't say that about McAdam but I'm sure the same thing happened. To give a second rounder for a 28 year who had only played 50 games in 10 years due to injury is just crazy

Frost held down a key defensive post in a side that made a prelim and then has also played solid footy at the hawks. I don’t think there is any issue with a second rounder

McAdams equally hasn’t worked out due to injury but I’d agree if he’d been totally fit the whole time and couldn’t get a kick. Based on his output at the crows and the fact they wanted him to stay I don’t have an issue with the price we paid

4 hours ago, bing181 said:

It says that King doesn't want high-maintenance players around the club.

If King can’t manage high maintenance players he’ll back to assistant coaching pretty quickly.

He’d want to be getting something incredible back for both Oliver and Trac

7 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Frost held down a key defensive post in a side that made a prelim and then has also played solid footy at the hawks. I don’t think there is any issue with a second rounder

McAdams equally hasn’t worked out due to injury but I’d agree if he’d been totally fit the whole time and couldn’t get a kick. Based on his output at the crows and the fact they wanted him to stay I don’t have an issue with the price we paid

Don't agree with you with Frost only got a game because there was nobody else. Got sacked twice because he's not enough. Terrible decision by Lamb. You are easily pleased I get that with your Petracca trades.

Just now, WERRIDEE said:

Don't agree with you with Frost only got a game because there was nobody else. Got sacked twice because he's not enough. Terrible decision by Lamb. You are easily pleased I get that with your Petracca trades.

I feel like you need to do a best 22. You’ve been a cranky bum tonight and maybe it’ll cheer you up

9 minutes ago, No10 said:

If King can’t manage high maintenance players he’ll back to assistant coaching pretty quickly.

He’d want to be getting something incredible back for both Oliver and Trac

Oliver please What don't you get?

Just now, Ted Lasso said:

I feel like you need to do a best 22. You’ve been a cranky bum tonight and maybe it’ll cheer you up

Soft negotiators annoy me that's why I'm cranky with you Old 55, Dazzle and Tim Lamb. I'll think about it a best 23 does cheer me up maybe a best 23 of Lamb stuff ups.

Just now, WERRIDEE said:

Soft negotiators annoy me that's why I'm cranky with you Old 55, Dazzle and Tim Lamb. I'll think about it a best 23 does cheer me up maybe a best 23 of Lamb stuff ups.

Now we’re talking!

23 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

I feel like his record is actually pretty good on the most part.

I think fans just look at the speculative picks and say “that low cost, speculative pickup didn’t work so Tim lamb bad”

Lamb has had an absolute shocker the last couple of years.

Billings, Schache, Sharp, McAdam, Dunstan, Fullarton, Hunter, Grundy.

Not only that, some of the list management decisions and contracts he's handed out which we are now trying to get off the books. Giving Jack Viney a 4 year offer even though he was already contracted was one of the most bizarre list management decisions i have seen.

Giving up a lot in terms of draft capital just to move up the order and select Tholstrup who has already been told he needs to shape up or else.

I'd be a happy man if the club got rid of him after this trade period (they wont).

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Lamb has had an absolute shocker the last couple of years.

Billings, Schache, Sharp, McAdam, Dunstan, Fullarton, Hunter, Grundy.

Not only that, some of the list management decisions and contracts he's handed out which we are now trying to get off the books. Giving Jack Viney a 4 year offer even though he was already contracted was one of the most bizarre list management decisions i have seen.

Giving up a lot in terms of draft capital just to move up the order and select Tholstrup who has already been told he needs to shape up or else.

I'd be a happy man if the club got rid of him after this trade period (they wont).

The Viney and Gawn extensions when they just weren’t needed were a bit odd.

It’s such an important position. You can see how much we benefit from one of the best in Taylor. If we could get the list management right it will go a long way towards us winning again.

I just feel like with some of thr NQR names while it’s fair to say we shouldn’t have signed them at all, you look at that list and it’s hardly Tim lambs fault potatoes played like potatoes

I feel like we've under utilised JT with all these dud deals throwing away second rounders for spuds, it's the opportunity cost, we couldn't let JT do his thing cos we've been busy drafting Sharp and potatoes like Fullerton and Shacke.

10 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

The Viney and Gawn extensions when they just weren’t needed were a bit odd.

It’s such an important position. You can see how much we benefit from one of the best in Taylor. If we could get the list management right it will go a long way towards us winning again.

I just feel like with some of thr NQR names while it’s fair to say we shouldn’t have signed them at all, you look at that list and it’s hardly Tim lambs fault potatoes played like potatoes

I can't believe it! I agree with Dazzle there is a first everything is suppose.

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

Clarry is more loved by his teammates than Trac is right now

You can keep pretending that Trac isn’t a problem or you can realize that we are entertaining trading him because he is.

I remember the player cameos from before the premiership when asked who the most annoying player is from our team. 9/10 would say Trac.

Easy to understand how that annoyance turned to irritation then to borderline dislike.

2 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

I feel like we've under utilised JT with all these dud deals throwing away second rounders for spuds, it's the opportunity cost, we couldn't let JT do his thing cos we've been busy drafting Sharp and potatoes like Fullerton and Shacke.

Recruiting too many depth players and then giving them 2 or 3 year deals ended up clogging the list with NQR's

Of course, Taylor is also responsible as he is the head recruiter but his fortè is the draft

And because he's been so successful with drafting talent, we should lean on him to do as you've suggested ... pluck out some talent in the late 2nd round and in the 3rd round

Have a go at least

Both in this post season and in the 2026 post season (pre Tassie)

Whether we want to acknowledge it or not, losing May, Trac & Ollie means that we are in a rebuild phase. The list without those 3 is not going to contend for the flag

So it's the additions that can take us back to contending

So what are we good at?

Drafting talent and swapping draft picks for proven, top 12-15 talent (Formerly players such as May, Lever, Hibberd, Langdon, Brown, Melksham and 1 or 2 others)

The good news is that we got a bit of a head start with the acquisition of Windsor, Kolt, Lindsay & Langford

Windsor is a wingman and Kolt is an onballer. Hopefully King gives them both a chance to show their worth

Lindsay will probably end up on a HBF (as a distributor/rebounder) whilst Langford is an onballer in the making

It's not rocket science but it seemingly was for the previous FD & MC

Jaded better be kidding himself If Clarry is loved more than Trac we have a serious problem. What do you think I'm saying when I say Clarry has serious issues? Clarry doesn't deserve any love with what he's put the club through. Petracca was let down by his club they didn't even visit him when he was sick. That's pretty poor, Melbourne never should have done that poor communications. I understand what he feels when I was bashed with a baseball bat I was told Allen Jakovich was going to see me he didn't I was shattered I felt let down but I moved on unlike Trac who hasn't moved on still feels angry about that. I wish I could tell Trac my story then maybe he could set himself free from the hatred he has for Melbourne. Trac deserves all our love, Clarry doesn't and it seems the other way around on this forum.

5 hours ago, Gator said:

If anyone thinks a 30 year old Petracca, who runs away from high balls and now rushes his kicks because he's concerned by body contact, is worth more in a trade than a 21 year old Humphrey, they are genuinely clueless.

Most years Petracca's kicking was pretty consistent. His percentage efficiency typically averaged in the mid 50s. It never dropped below 50, until this year (48). There's a reason.

After a year back I do expect his confidence to improve, but trading a player with potentially 2-3 very good years left for one with a decade is a no brainer. If it can be done.

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

Not delusional at all. FACT. Oliver has destroyed our dynasty with his culture. Petracca said in an interview that he wasn't initially happy with him but he trains hard so he has forgiven him. I seriously doubt that. I can't stand Smith I hate his guts for what he has done to this club and I'll tell his old man that if I ever see him again. Lucky for Oliver he is a premiership player so he is forgiven somewhat but I'm torn between loving him and hating him.

I think his old man is going through enough without you telling him anything. Splits families and Footy Clubs. You do your own mending and look after your own backyard.