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PREGAME: SF vs Carlton

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  On 13/09/2023 at 10:09, Nascent said:

Agree with the first part, however Curnow will absolutely destroy Tomlinson with his athleticism. Surely plays on resting ruck like Pittonet or TDK.

Tomlinson as a resting ruck. That’s a joke?

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      On 13/09/2023 at 08:49, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Ch 7 going with Tomlinson over Hibberd.

    Listed a range of other players to come in but Grundy wasn’t one of them.

    Absurd to expect tmac to ruck 20% of the game whilst also trying to play up forward. Will be the worst selection decision in goodwins entire tenure 

      On 13/09/2023 at 09:26, bandicoot said:

    We kept Colli wood to 60 points. Defence wasn’t our issue 

    Cameron and Mcstay took 3 contested marks in dangerous spots out marking the likes of Rivers. If you want Lever to mark in front of Curnow all night, you’re bringing in Tomlinson.

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      On 13/09/2023 at 09:17, Demon Dynasty said:

    Ins:  Tomo, Turner, JJ, Spargo

    Outs:  Salem (omitted), JVR (susp), Gus (conc) & Chandler (omitted)

    Tomo comes in for Salem to cover their resting ruck.

    Allows Lever to play in his preferred role.

    May to Curnow no brainer.

    Hibbo to stay in playing a defensive role on Owies.

    Turner for JVR

    JJ for Gus.  Hard tag on Crippa.  Don't care if he only gets 5 possies.  Keep Crippa to 16 or so and a goal (max) and we should win.

    Spargo for Chandler

    Sub:  AMW or Woe

    And who is the resting ruck?

      On 13/09/2023 at 10:12, bandicoot said:

    Absurd to expect tmac to ruck 20% of the game whilst also trying to play up forward. Will be the worst selection decision in goodwins entire tenure 

    I think Schache, Turner or Brown will come in for JvR.

     Spargo will replace Laurie I think.


      On 13/09/2023 at 10:12, At the break of Gawn said:

    Cameron and Mcstay took 3 contested marks in dangerous spots out marking the likes of Rivers. If you want Lever to mark in front of Curnow all night, you’re bringing in Tomlinson.

    If you wanted Jamie Elliott to have kicked a bag you would have brought in Tomlinson instead of hibbo

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      On 13/09/2023 at 10:14, At the break of Gawn said:

    I think Schache, Turner or Brown will come in for JvR.

     Spargo will replace Laurie I think.

    Again, who is your resting ruck to go up against pitonet and tdk?

      On 13/09/2023 at 10:11, bandicoot said:

    Tomlinson as a resting ruck. That’s a joke?

    Plays on Carltons ruck when they're resting forward.

     

    David King is right

     

    We need Petracca to play up forward fo the bulk of the game, need his creativity and strength

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    We have Petracca, Oliver and Viney in the middle but we continue to loose the centre clearance count.

    Too many cooks in the kitchen...

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      On 13/09/2023 at 10:12, bandicoot said:

    Absurd to expect tmac to ruck 20% of the game whilst also trying to play up forward. Will be the worst selection decision in goodwins entire tenure 

    Probably stating to get into pig headed territory if he refuses to once again play Grundy.

    I totally support not playing 2 rucks if it’s wet, but the combo has actually worked in the first 13 rounds.

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      On 13/09/2023 at 09:56, DubDee said:

    I would go with T Mac. He’s done it before, a little

    Not ideal but we have a first year kid doing it usually. 

    Id personally rather we take a hit on an average 2nd ruck over carrying two first rucks

    So after playing 1 afl game in almost 4 months you want tmac to take up rucking duties agains tdk? This is a joke?

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      On 13/09/2023 at 10:16, bandicoot said:

    If you wanted Jamie Elliott to have kicked a bag you would have brought in Tomlinson instead of hibbo

    Hibbo was a good matchup for Elliott but we don’t need him for Carlton I feel.

      On 13/09/2023 at 10:17, bandicoot said:

    Again, who is your resting ruck to go up against pitonet and tdk?

    Tmac or Schache can do it.

    Ins: Jordan, Tomlinson, Schache/Turner/Brown, Spargo (Sub)

    Out: Brayshaw, JvR, Hibberd, Laurie (sub)

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    It wasn't really our defence that was good against Collingwood. We conceded a score of 60 (arguably more if Elliot kicked normally) off 39 inside 50s. Both of McStay goals were when he was matched up on Rivers, and Rivers was also seemingly on Cameron when he kicked his goal. We were definitely short down back and it detracted from Levers intercept and Rivers rebounding. Both are important to our fortunes and rivers in particular has become important to how we go forward. 

    The score conceded of 60 had more to do with the fact we basically had the ball for the entire last quarter, so they barely scored. 

    If tommo comes in, it's to play on the resting ruck, as May will be on Curnow. Lever will then take a small/midsized which allows him to play his intercepting role (and also get burnt the other way as he is prone to do). 

    I'm not fussed on Chandler or Spargo - take your pick. Either one could light up, either one could have 3 touches again. 

    Jordon is the last man standing for Gus. 

    Tmac and Smith can be the big forwards, with Fritsch the 3rd. That's arguably big enough down there without the need for Grundy or Gawn. I'd like to be able to swing Trac down there too, but then we'd ideally have another mid floating around somewhere. Maybe rivers is that name with Turner taking his spot at half back via sub.

    On the basis of the above, Grundy doesn't play. 

    Am I wrong? 


    Sounds like Tomlinson, Turner and JJ are coming in. I think the club is trusting the best ruckman of the last 6 years to take in the ruck job by himself. King makes a good point on 360 that Gawn needs to tuck inside 50 to create better stoppages.

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    Just watching AFL 360, and Joey said Carlton’s forward entries have been awful against us. Apparently Carlton have only had 29 scoring shots from 92 entries against us in 2023. Its almost our lucky day that we’re playing a team just as inefficient as us on Friday night. 

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      On 13/09/2023 at 10:25, Roost it far said:

    Sounds like Tomlinson, Turner and JJ are coming in.

    Blues by 5 goals

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    If no Grundy, which is expected, only ruck backup option is Smith. Will have to go with De Koning. 
    God speed. 

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      On 13/09/2023 at 10:27, At the break of Gawn said:

    Just watching AFL 360, and Joey said Carlton’s forward entries have been awful against us. Apparently Carlton have only had 29 scoring shots from 92 entries us in 2023. Its almost our lucky day that we’re playing a team just as inefficient as us on Friday night. 

    19 scoring shots


      On 13/09/2023 at 10:28, Jaded No More said:

    If no Grundy, which is expected, only ruck backup option is Smith. Will have to go with De Koning. 
    God speed. 

    Considering JvR and Tmac only had 2 hit outs in total on Thursday night I really think you’re putting too much weight into this. Even Spargo could chance a hit out.

      On 13/09/2023 at 10:27, beelzebub said:

    Blues by 5 goals

    JJ replacement for Brayshaw is obvious. Tomlinson replaces Hibberd and takes the testing ruck….solid. Turner…..not sure what his gig is!

      On 13/09/2023 at 10:29, Roost it far said:

    19 scoring shots

    Montagna said 19 but it’s actually 29 as per the graphic and you can go back and check the scores from round 12 and 22.

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      On 13/09/2023 at 10:31, At the break of Gawn said:

    Considering JvR and Tmac only had 2 hit outs in total on Thursday night I really think you’re putting too much weight into this. Even Spargo could chance a hit out.

    It’s not about winning a hitout, it’s about making sure your opposing ruckman isn’t getting a free run. 
    You don’t want their ruckman taking the ball out of the ruck unopposed. 

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      On 13/09/2023 at 10:31, Roost it far said:

    JJ replacement for Brayshaw is obvious. Tomlinson replaces Hibberd and takes the testing ruck….solid. Turner…..not sure what his gig is!

    To kick 5 goals on the night.

    No pressure son.

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