IMO MFC in hind sight probably wish they should have kept either Simmonds or Jolly, both are better than Jamar and both have a lot more grunt than Jeff White. White is soft and wont put his head over the ball. We need a good tough ruckman.

IMO MFC in hind sight probably wish they should have kept either Simmonds or Jolly, both are better than Jamar and both have a lot more grunt than Jeff White. White is soft and wont put his head over the ball. We need a good tough ruckman.

Are you serious? Not only is Jamar a great ruck man he can also be a great full forward player. Jolly was dropped for the right reasons. Jamar is far harder at the ball and a more solid option.

Are you serious? Not only is Jamar a great ruck man he can also be a great full forward player. Jolly was dropped for the right reasons. Jamar is far harder at the ball and a more solid option.

Can't agree. Jamar does not impress me. Especially not as a "great full forward player". He is an OK back up ruckman, but he didn't get his nickname of "Donuts" cos he eats alot of them.

Can't agree. Jamar does not impress me. Especially not as a "great full forward player". He is an OK back up ruckman, but he didn't get his nickname of "Donuts" cos he eats alot of them.

Clearly you arent a Melbourne supporter and I wouldnt have expected you to have seen enough Melbourne games to be passing comment. And as I can see u are an Essendon supporter dont throw stones in a glass house

Clearly you arent a Melbourne supporter and I wouldnt have expected you to have seen enough Melbourne games to be passing comment. And as I can see u are an Essendon supporter dont throw stones in a glass house

Clearly you're new here and haven't read enough of Ash's excellent posts to realise he sees plenty of the Demons and knows more about them than most MFC supporters. You may not always agree with what he says but it's always well thought out.

Clearly you're new here and haven't read enough of Ash's excellent posts to realise he sees plenty of the Demons and knows more about them than most MFC supporters. You may not always agree with what he says but it's always well thought out.

Clearly it says at the bottom of my name "rookie" what do u think that means? Im sorry but I do not appreciate Melbourne fans or any other fans attacking our players

Simmonds and to a lesser extent Jolly have both performed way above what the MFC thought they were worth.

Still hard to accept the fact that we traded Simmonds for Craig Ellis 6 years ago (3 way trade that involved Bandy from Freo)

Clearly it says at the bottom of my name "rookie" what do u think that means? Im sorry but I do not appreciate Melbourne fans or any other fans attacking our players

You're in for a busy time here then ...

Clearly it says at the bottom of my name "rookie" what do u think that means? Im sorry but I do not appreciate Melbourne fans or any other fans attacking our players

You clearly dont apply such high standards of behaviour to players of other Clubs.

You have not started well so far and you might want to read a bit more before you attack posters like Ash.

I second Old's comments about Ash and he most welcome to post here. He is a cut above the standard.

Simmonds and to a lesser extent Jolly have both performed way above what the MFC thought they were worth.

Still hard to accept the fact that we traded Simmonds for Craig Ellis 6 years ago (3 way trade that involved Bandy from Freo)

I get where u are coming from but we can not afford to look back at the moment, if we are going to start that the top of my list of mistakes is Woewodin!

You clearly dont apply such high standards of behaviour to players of other Clubs.

You have not started well so far and you might want to read a bit more before you attack posters like Ash.

I second Old's comments about Ash and he most welcome to post here. He is a cut above the standard.

I didnt say he wasnt welcome but when our list is decimated players like Jamar are great to have around cos he can play in a variety of positions and I really dont think 'donuts' is a nice way to describe one of our players. Far as I knew his nickname was 'russian'

You're in for a busy time here then ...

Thats why I am here

Are you serious? Not only is Jamar a great ruck man he can also be a great full forward player. Jolly was dropped for the right reasons. Jamar is far harder at the ball and a more solid option.

Jolly was traded not cos we wanted too but he was going to leave and we'd have got nothing.

Jamar a great ruckman??

Jamar can be a great full forward player??

Have you seen any Melbourne games?

Jo;;y was traded not cos we wanted too but he was going to leave and we'd have got nothing.

Jamar a great ruckman??

Jamar can be a great full forward player??

Have you seen any Melbourne games?

Yup I was one of the lucky 16,000 to show up last week were you? So we should get rid of him should we?

Still hard to accept the fact that we traded Simmonds for Craig Ellis 6 years ago (3 way trade that involved Bandy from Freo)

Yeah, makes me feel uncomfortable thinking about that trade.

But I guess at the time, it made sense. We had a dominant ruckman in White at the time, and Jolly was showing a lot of promise. And we were desperate to land a key defender

Yup I was one of the lucky 16,000 to show up last week were you? So we should get rid of him should we?

No I didn't go on Saturday, but it would help if I was in Australia.

I don't think we should get rid of Jamar, he has a role to play in our team but I do find it hilarious that anyone woould label him as great.

Get real.

Yeah, makes me feel uncomfortable thinking about that trade.

But I guess at the time, it made sense. We had a dominant ruckman in White at the time, and Jolly was showing a lot of promise. And we were desperate to land a key defender

Ellis's position was compromised by an ACL injury.

No I didn't go on Saturday, but it would help if I was in Australia.

I don't think we should get rid of Jamar, he has a role to play in our team but I do find it hilarious that anyone woould label him as great.

Get real.

Well I believe all our players are great in their own way, too bad for the team if you dont

We also picked up a second rounder for Simmonds. Pick 26 I think.

A starting CHB (when boy was it needed, Ingerson just retired and Nicholson was raw) and second rounder for a ruckmen that was in dreadful form whilst Jeff White was about to reach his peak. Also Jolly was on the rookie list showing good signs.

The thought process behind trading Simmo was sound and what received as part of the trade was adequate. It was just unfortunate that Ellis got injured and Aaron Rogers didn't end up making it.

Jolly on the other hand wanted a number 1 ruck spot. Not much we could do there and we received a first rounder there! Lynden Dunn would not be playing full-forward this week were it not for the Jolly trade.

So I feel both the Simmonds and Jolly trades were sound moves at the time by the MFC. However I do agree that our current ruck stocks are worrying. White is still a very good ruckman but is desperately in need of quality support which he is not receiving at the moment by Jamar.

jamar is useless! yet people say " oh he is still young.. he needs time.. etc but in my opinion the guy is a waste and doesn't do anything on the ground to hurt opponents! he has been on our list for a good 6 years and has done nothing! has to go.. he has had chances

jamar is useless! yet people say " oh he is still young.. he needs time.. etc but in my opinion the guy is a waste and doesn't do anything on the ground to hurt opponents! he has been on our list for a good 6 years and has done nothing! has to go.. he has had chances

He has height which is valuable considering we are clearly lacking in height and he rucked possibly better than Jeff White on Sunday

Clearly it says at the bottom of my name "rookie" what do u think that means? Im sorry but I do not appreciate Melbourne fans or any other fans attacking our players

You're probably going to find constant disagreements here then, if to you Ash's post was an 'attack'.

You're probably going to find constant disagreements here then, if to you Ash's post was an 'attack'.

Oh well I'm sure I will manage. How is calling one of our players 'donut' not an attack on Jamar??

I get where u are coming from but we can not afford to look back at the moment, if we are going to start that the top of my list of mistakes is Woewodin!

Gold!

Welcome to Demonland. Enjoy the abuse coming your way...

By the way, Dunn > Jolly. Go work that one out.

Gold!

Welcome to Demonland. Enjoy the abuse coming your way...

By the way, Dunn > Jolly. Go work that one out.

Thanks! Ah Dunn is a great player! He was great Saturday