When I see the title of this thread - Clumsy or was he tripped?

Poor use of puns in this headline. 
Surely, 'Weed comes out smoking and ready to reach new highs in 2022' would have been much more apropos.

Weideman trapped by falling debris after training the house down.

When all is said and done.....

On 12/31/2021 at 5:08 PM, Stiff Arm said:

I'm still a fan of the Weed.

Reckon what is stopping him is mostly between his ears. Had a few injury setbacks too over the last couple of years.

His body shape looks much improved. Stronger through the thighs, hips and shoulders, which will help prevent him getting pushed around in the contest for marks. Hope the tank is similarly improved. 

Wouldn't be surprised if Weed overtakes Tmac by end of 2022. Be a good sign for the health of our KPF stocks.

HNY to all on Land. And what a great footy year it has been.

Unfortunately David Neitz could make a comeback and overtake TMac as well as push Weid out of a contest.

I hope TMac can string one complete season together myself 

43 minutes ago, IRW said:

Unfortunately David Neitz could make a comeback and overtake TMac as well as push Weid out of a contest.

I hope TMac can string one complete season together myself 

If we knew what Tmac's instructions were I guess we'd know if he was following them or not, but we don't.

 

52 minutes ago, IRW said:

Unfortunately David Neitz could make a comeback and overtake TMac as well as push Weid out of a contest.

I hope TMac can string one complete season together myself 

TMac was instrumental in our form earlier this year. Without him we don't win the minor premiership and possibly the flag.

42 minutes ago, Dante said:

If we knew what Tmac's instructions were I guess we'd know if he was following them or not, but we don't.

 

Yeah I concede that ( I'm a fan of TMac) but he seems to almost take a mark,almost kick it over the player on the mark when he does get one, almost get the ball in a contest.. 

I'm pretty sure he was following instructions though and his shepherd goal in the g/ f is why he's way better than Weid

If Weids excuse is his confidence I reckon it's a genuine issue for both the McDonald brothers 

41 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

TMac was instrumental in our form earlier this year. Without him we don't win the minor premiership and possibly the flag.

Which is why I wrote about a " full season" ..that's been his problem since he was headed for AA Full back back in the  90's(?)

Then his form  suddenly collapsed until they had to move him forward.....  and the pattern continues.

 

2 hours ago, IRW said:

Which is why I wrote about a " full season" ..that's been his problem since he was headed for AA Full back back in the  90's(?)

Then his form  suddenly collapsed until they had to move him forward.....  and the pattern continues.

 

I dispute your comment IRW that Tmac's form  "suddenly collapsed" when he was moved forward. 

My assessment of the situation at the time was that Tmac's disposal was a real worry turning the ball over too often and at the time we didn't have a great forward line.

Before He left Chip Frawley was played up forward and I think it was Roos that gave Tmac a shot at FF/CHF late in either 2015 or 2016 to bolster our attack.

We all know about 2018 and 53 goals for Tommy but really this year I believe his first 2/3 of the season were just as valuable and that the injury was the main reason his form dropped for the later part of the season.

However from where Tom was at 12 months ago he was still handy up forward  as he needed a first or second defender to mind him. He helped out in the ruck up forward snd things like his bullock ing work and goal line strength were very valuable in our Finals.

Sgsin he is training well and I expect Tmac to be named as CHF in Round1. Weid goes not compete like T Mac so it will be interesting to see what happens with JVR this season.

Also Jacko and Maxy spent more time up forward as the season progressed and both made goal contributions and needed undersized ( vs Max) defenders to mind them or compete in ruck situations up forward. I like to think Tommy plays a role like Mark McClure did for Carlton in their three flags in 1979,81 and 82 with plenty of mediums snd smalls and a Mackay ( Jacko) floating plus a ruck in the mix snd BBB taking his tall extended arm marks that no defence can stop.

Lets not fret about Tmac too much who IMHO played his role like many others and look at our scores since Round20 and results.

Go Dees back to back or three peat or ??? Who knows. 

 

On 12/31/2021 at 9:19 PM, dworship said:

If my memory serves, it wasn't his hip, he actually had a hairline fracture in a femur. Wasn't particularly painful but he needed to be off legs to allow it to knit/heal.

The knee bone's connected to the... something.
The something's connected to the red thing.
The red thing's connected to my wristwatch!... Uh oh.

7 hours ago, 58er said:

I dispute your comment IRW that Tmac's form  "suddenly collapsed" when he was moved forward. 

My assessment of the situation at the time was that Tmac's disposal was a real worry turning the ball over too often and at the time we didn't have a great forward line.

Before He left Chip Frawley was played up forward and I think it was Roos that gave Tmac a shot at FF/CHF late in either 2015 or 2016 to bolster our attack.

We all know about 2018 and 53 goals for Tommy but really this year I believe his first 2/3 of the season were just as valuable and that the injury was the main reason his form dropped for the later part of the season.

However from where Tom was at 12 months ago he was still handy up forward  as he needed a first or second defender to mind him. He helped out in the ruck up forward snd things like his bullock ing work and goal line strength were very valuable in our Finals.

Sgsin he is training well and I expect Tmac to be named as CHF in Round1. Weid goes not compete like T Mac so it will be interesting to see what happens with JVR this season.

Also Jacko and Maxy spent more time up forward as the season progressed and both made goal contributions and needed undersized ( vs Max) defenders to mind them or compete in ruck situations up forward. I like to think Tommy plays a role like Mark McClure did for Carlton in their three flags in 1979,81 and 82 with plenty of mediums snd smalls and a Mackay ( Jacko) floating plus a ruck in the mix snd BBB taking his tall extended arm marks that no defence can stop.

Lets not fret about Tmac too much who IMHO played his role like many others and look at our scores since Round20 and results.

Go Dees back to back or three peat or ??? Who knows. 

 

No you missed my point Tom's form dropped off dramatically just when he was being touted as AA full back.. it was later he was moved forward .

Possibly not even the same year.

For a time I thought he was better than the 2nd forward he was being called.

He could clunk marks in a pack without having to leap

In following years he has carried foot and leg injuries and as a result has a history of not being able to complete a season at his best.

There does seem to be a confidence issue as well and you can often read it on his face.

I think his best is way way better than anything Weid has shown and hope he gets a full year in the team before the younger Weid finally  catches a  few and kick some goals ....in 2023

11 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

TMac was instrumental in our form earlier this year. Without him we don't win the minor premiership and possibly the flag.

I was obviously being flippant re Neita but don't dispute TMacs importance.

You havnt noticed I  say I hope to see a full season from him.

At present we can carry Weid...or...we have to carry Weid 

8 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The knee bone's connected to the... something.
The something's connected to the red thing.
The red thing's connected to my wristwatch!... Uh oh.

The glass of Red is too often connected to my lips. (Had to be very careful how I constructed that sentence).