WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted December 1, 2021 Posted December 1, 2021 CRAIG CAMERON'S BEST 22 B: WHELAN, FRAWLEY, WHEATLEY HB: N.BROWN, J.RIVERS, WARD C: JOHNSTONE, JONES, SYLVIA HF: BATE, MILLER, BRUCE F: DAVEY, GREEN, ROBERTSON FOLL: JOLLY, WOEWODIN, J.MCDONALD IC: RIGONI, WONEAMIRRI, THOMPSON, JAMAR BARRY PRENDERGAST BEST 22 B: STRAUSS, DAVIS, BENNELL HB: JETTA, HOWE, MACDONALD C: BLEASE, MCKENZIE, BAIL HF: WATTS, JURRAH, GYSBERTS F: TAPSCOTT, T.MCDONALD, COOK FOLL: GAWN, SCULLY, TRENGOVE IC: FITZPATRICK, NICHOLSON, EVANS, COUCH JASON TAYLOR'S BEST 22 B: HUNT, PETTY, BOWEY HB: SALEM, O.MCDONALD, RIVERS C: BRAYSHAW, PETRACCA, BAKER HF: NEAL-BULLEN, FRITSCH, SPARROW F: PICKETT, WEIDEMAN, SPARGO FOLL: JACKSON, HARMES, OLIVER IC: HANNAN, STRETCH, JORDON, VANDENBERG 1 Quote
Wrecker46 3,130 Posted December 1, 2021 Posted December 1, 2021 Barry Pendergast drafted the AA captain and Melbourne's first premiership captain in 57 years with a late pick. We can thank him for that. Quote
DeeZone 10,584 Posted December 1, 2021 Posted December 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Wrecker46 said: Barry Pendergast drafted the AA captain and Melbourne's first premiership captain in 57 years with a late pick. We can thank him for that. And TMac as well. Craig Cameron’s list is also loaded with talent but Jason Taylor what more could you ask. 1 Quote
Fritta and Turner 4,696 Posted December 1, 2021 Posted December 1, 2021 BPs team had much unrealized potential. 1 Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted December 1, 2021 Author Posted December 1, 2021 Cameron's side under achieved. Losing Jolly and Thompson hurt.Out of the 22 only Bate and Wonaeamirri under achieved. Prendergast was a disaster only 2 out of 30 picks are up to AFL level. Taylor won us a premiership. 15 premiership players in there. Not including trades. Cameron had Powell, Ingerson and Shanahan while Prendergast had Clark while Taylor had May, Lever, Langdon, Hibberd, Melksham, B.Brown and Vince. 4 1 Quote
Wrecker46 3,130 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 Watts and Gysberts were both early picks and failed, both went on to other clubs and didn't succeed their either. Says to me it wasn't our development that was lacking. Our recruiting didn't recognise competitiveness like they do now. I doubt JT would have taken either of them. 1 Quote
Cranky Franky 2,270 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Wrecker46 said: Watts and Gysberts were both early picks and failed, both went on to other clubs and didn't succeed their either. Says to me it wasn't our development that was lacking. Our recruiting didn't recognise competitiveness like they do now. I doubt JT would have taken either of them. Watts was hardly a failure. Would have played 200 games if not for breaking his leg. He was a lot better than some other no 1 picks. He & Nic Nat were universally predicted to go 1 & 2 that year. 1 Quote
Wrecker46 3,130 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said: Watts was hardly a failure. Would have played 200 games if not for breaking his leg. He was a lot better than some other no 1 picks. He & Nic Nat were universally predicted to go 1 & 2 that year. JT doesn't have a habit of drafting players universally selected in phantom drafts. 1 1 Quote
IvanBartul13 2,564 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said: Cameron's side under achieved. Losing Jolly and Thompson hurt.Out of the 22 only Bate and Wonaeamirri under achieved. Prendergast was a disaster only 2 out of 30 picks are up to AFL level. Taylor won us a premiership. 15 premiership players in there. Not including trades. Cameron had Powell, Ingerson and Shanahan while Prendergast had Clark while Taylor had May, Lever, Langdon, Hibberd, Melksham, B.Brown and Vince. Unusually off point here - Cameron drafted Chris Lamb, Cale Morton, Addam Maric, Jack Grimes who all underachieved. The concept of using teams doesnt work because of tenure length differences. Youve also not put forward the best 22s. James Magner would be in Prendergasts as an example. To say Prendergast only drafted two AFL calibre players is Spiritedly wide of the mark and unfair to at least a few of Howe, Jetta, Tom McDonald, Scully, Watts and Jurrah. Of course he wasnt a good recruiter but he still made some very good picks and Gysberts was traded for Cam Pedersen and the origin points of Fritsch, May and Sparrow’s careers come from Prendergast’s recruiting. He also had the worst coach in Melbourne’s history using his talent and interfering. 1 Quote
Flag 2021 143 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 There are some very ordinary players on the first two lists : eg Cameron with Bate and Miller on the HF Line eg Pedders with a Centre Line of Blease, Mckenzie and Bail. Quote
Fritta and Turner 4,696 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 I will never forget Cameron saying he didn't rate Eddie Betts Quote
Wrecker46 3,130 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, Jontee said: I will never forget Cameron saying he didn't rate Eddie Betts Pendergast didn't even bother speaking to Dusty when we had pick 1 and 2 in that draft. I think that's worse. 2 Quote
Wrecker46 3,130 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 8 hours ago, WERRIDEE said: CRAIG CAMERON'S BEST 22 B: WHELAN, FRAWLEY, WHEATLEY HB: N.BROWN, J.RIVERS, WARD C: JOHNSTONE, JONES, SYLVIA HF: BATE, MILLER, BRUCE F: DAVEY, GREEN, ROBERTSON FOLL: JOLLY, WOEWODIN, J.MCDONALD IC: RIGONI, WONEAMIRRI, THOMPSON, JAMAR BARRY PRENDERGAST BEST 22 B: STRAUSS, DAVIS, BENNELL HB: JETTA, HOWE, MACDONALD C: BLEASE, MCKENZIE, BAIL HF: WATTS, JURRAH, GYSBERTS F: TAPSCOTT, T.MCDONALD, COOK FOLL: GAWN, SCULLY, TRENGOVE IC: FITZPATRICK, NICHOLSON, EVANS, COUCH JASON TAYLOR'S BEST 22 B: HUNT, PETTY, BOWEY HB: SALEM, O.MCDONALD, RIVERS C: BRAYSHAW, PETRACCA, BAKER HF: NEAL-BULLEN, FRITSCH, SPARROW F: PICKETT, WEIDEMAN, SPARGO FOLL: JACKSON, HARMES, OLIVER IC: HANNAN, STRETCH, JORDON, VANDENBERG Where is Viney? If F/son doesn't count Stretch shouldn't be in there. Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted December 2, 2021 Author Posted December 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, Wrecker46 said: Where is Viney? If F/son doesn't count Stretch shouldn't be in there. Viney was picked up by his father. Quote
Stiff Arm 4,420 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 Worth noting that Taylor also 'lost out' on the opportunity to use a number of 1st and 2nd rounders when they were traded for May, Lever, Langer, Brown, etc Quote
Wrecker46 3,130 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, WERRIDEE said: Viney was picked up by his father. Under the father son rule, like Stretch Quote
mog 58 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, Wrecker46 said: Under the father son rule, like Stretch PRENDERGAST had left before that draft, and Taylor hadn't started so Todd went into that draft as the acting head of recruiting. Quote
The Jackson FIX 3,509 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 13 hours ago, Wrecker46 said: Barry Pendergast drafted the AA captain and Melbourne's first premiership captain in 57 years with a late pick. We can thank him for that. I have it on good authority he was drinking heavily that day and wasn’t himself 1 Quote
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