13 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I think the AFL have snookered themselves.

To keep the season going they rescheduled games but also mixed and matched teams that weren't originally scheduled to play each other.  Somewhere in those mixes and matches they have miscalculated the number of games.

The result (according to my summary of the season) all teams will have played 10 games except the Bulldogs who will play 9. 

Can't see a way of fixing this that will be fair to all teams.  The teams they haven't played are Lions, North, Saints and Carlton.  It wouldn't be fair to the first two who will be in finals to play another game for no points.  And it wouldn't be fair to teams in the finals for them to play Saints or Carlton for whom it will be an exhibition match and virtually gift the bulldogs 4 pts. 

The best thing that can happen is that after round 9 the Bulldogs are well and truly out of contention for finals or cannot progress higher up the ladder if in finals, so the 10th game doesn't matter and it is forfeited. 

I assume someone at the Bulldogs has alerted the AFL to this rather glaring anomaly.

One of the other Clubs  must have played only 9 games.

There are 14 teams so no one has had really had a real bye just evolved out of draw changes ie cancellations.

Whether Bulldogs play a top or bottom side  in R10 it should b obvious that one of the Clubs are short snd have to play the Bulldogs. 
I haven't scouted  the draw but the AFL can't just say no to 9 games for the Bullies. 
I hope they beat the Pies and make the top6 as they will offer a more competitive score vs the top teams than C'wood  who are injury and form riddled this season. 

 

On 2/21/2022 at 8:21 PM, Dees_In_October said:

Yep, I hadn't caught up with the Round 10 release. From memory, I'd heard they were going to keep the last round unfixtured for flexibility.

I'm just interested because it's a quirk in the fixture that we've never played Geelong in four seasons. No big deal.

But we make up for it in the AFL DIO by being scheduled at GHMBA Stadium each and every year!! 
Actually I also think Geelong and Saints  seem to be getting far too many night games for their watch ability. 

Could it be a sneaky Gil ( Saints) and ex Footy Boss Steve Hocking ( Cats ) having an influence.? 

13 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

So.  Which club is it?

Per the ladder on the AFL website this morning all teams have played 7 games except St Kilda and GWS who are on 6 games

9 minutes ago, BDA said:

Per the ladder on the AFL website this morning all teams have played 7 games except St Kilda and GWS who are on 6 games

Just had another look at the rest of the fixture.  It seems the other club that will be on 9 games is Freo but they have already played Bulldogs so there is still a problem... 

Maybe the fairest thing to do in terms of both teams having skin in the game is they play each other again in round 10 as @Whispering_Jacksuggested.  That way both teams are playing for premiership points.

Oh well, I guess we will know soon enough when the round 10 fixture is announced.

21 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Just had another look at the rest of the fixture.  It seems the other club that will be on 9 games is Freo but they have already played Bulldogs so there is still a problem... 

Maybe the fairest thing to do in terms of both teams having skin in the game is they play each other again in round 10 as @Whispering_Jacksuggested.  That way both teams are playing for premiership points.

Oh well, I guess we will know soon enough when the round 10 fixture is announced.

Ah. I see now. Yep that is a pickle

Meggs had a squizz this morning.  According to the fixture, after tonight's Round 5 catch up game Giants v Saints @Blacktown there needs to be one more game scheduled.  That is, Dockers v Bulldogs.  Once that's announced, all teams will then have their scheduled 10 games.

7 hours ago, Meggs said:

Meggs had a squizz this morning.  According to the fixture, after tonight's Round 5 catch up game Giants v Saints @Blacktown there needs to be one more game scheduled.  That is, Dockers v Bulldogs.  Once that's announced, all teams will then have their scheduled 10 games.

But they have played once before so I guess they have to play in Perth this time. Bad luck Bullies but it's the only answer for the AFLW 

2 hours ago, 58er said:

But they (Dockers and Crows) have played once before so I guess they have to play in Perth this time. Bad luck Bullies but it's the only answer for the AFLW 

Expecting the AFL to remedy this by announcing a change to Round 10 fixture...

13 hours ago, Meggs said:

Expecting the AFL to remedy this by announcing a change to Round 10 fixture...

Ah, ha!  Yes, that is the answer:  to reshuffle all/most of the round 10 games so Bulldogs and Freo don't play each other again and instead play a team they aren't playing.

Good pick up, 'Meggs'.

If my reckoning is correct, the teams they are not playing and (who that team is scheduled to play in round 10):

Freo:

• Brisbane (Richmond)
• Coll (GCS)
• Geel (GWS)
• Saints (Adel)

Bulldogs:

• Brisbane (Richmond)
• Carlton (Melbourne)
• North (WCE)
• Saints (Adel)

We haven't played Geelong, WCE and Colllingwood so if we lose the Carlton we will get one of those.  But I could almost guarantee that the AFL will substitute it with Collingwood to make round 10/finals placing 'more interesting'.  This gives us a more difficult draw than we would otherwise have and play more (all?) of the 2021 finalists.  Having said that we could dispense with Collingwood however the other teams will more likely allow us a bigger % boost which will be critical for finals 'Home' games.

Good luck to the AFL trying to convince another team to give up their round 10 opponent.  eg just can't see Brisbane or Adelaide respectively giving up their Richmond/Saints games which will be certain % boosters for them.

The AFL could have shuffled the round 9 and 10 games to solve this.  Maybe they didn't know they had a problem when they locked it in round 9.

I reckon the cleanest/fairest thing is let Freo and Bulldogs play each other again.

Surprised this is not getting any media attention.

Edited February 23, 20223 yr by Lucifers Hero

Well, well.  A new round 10 fixture has just been released.

Friday, March 11
Geelong v GWS Giants at GMHBA Stadium (Foxtel), 6.10pm AEDT

Saturday, March 12
Collingwood v Richmond at Victoria Park (Seven), 3.10pm AEDT
North Melbourne v West Coast at Arden Street (Seven), 5.10pm AEDT
Melbourne v Carlton at Casey Fields (Seven), 7.10pm AEDT

Sunday, March 13
St Kilda v Adelaide at RSEA Park (Seven), 1.10pm AEDT
Western Bulldogs v Brisbane at Mars Stadium (Seven), 3.10pm AEDT
Fremantle v Gold Coast at Fremantle Oval (Foxtel), 2.10pm AWST

r10-fixture

Affected games in 'Bold'.

Edited February 23, 20223 yr by Lucifers Hero

Find it a bit interesting that there is a real push from Players to become full time and the season to be in the same months as the men.  The issue you face with playing the same time as men you would get zero coverage, the product appeals to Channel 7 and fox as there is nothing else to broadcast out side 2 weeks of Tennis and a bit of cricket.  Play it April to Sept your media exposure will be limited not just games on free to air by online and written media.

I do agree playing football in the heat of summer is silly, but it is there to give the AFLW the maximum exposure.

 

 

The Suns would be spitting chips over the redraw because, if they were still in the running, they would previously have had a game v Collingwood which might have been the decider. Instead, the Pies play the Tigers (notionally less difficult), the Suns and Bulldogs have tough games against Freo in Perth and Brisbane respectively. It’s almost as if the AFL want Collingwood in the finals for crowd attendance or other reasons.

The run home:  the-run-home

I have summarised the scheduled for ease of comprehension (8 pt games in red):

My thoughts:

• I reckon Adelaide has top spot sewn up so am hoping they beat Freo this week.
• All top 4 teams will win their round 10 games.
• Unfortunately not gaining big % boosts vs lower teams has cost us ladder position (again) as other top teams have gained that boost.  So, to claim a Home final and have a pre-finals bye we need to finish top 2 which means beating North and Freo.
• If I have the finals sequence right, to avoid Adelaide until the GF we need to finish 2nd or 3rd.

Edited February 24, 20223 yr by Lucifers Hero

If  Freo to beat Adelaide this week and we win all 3 games. Top spot is ours! Unfortunately I can’t see that happening.

On 2/24/2022 at 9:43 AM, Whispering_Jack said:

The Suns would be spitting chips over the redraw because, if they were still in the running, they would previously have had a game v Collingwood which might have been the decider. Instead, the Pies play the Tigers (notionally less difficult), the Suns and Bulldogs have tough games against Freo in Perth and Brisbane respectively. It’s almost as if the AFL want Collingwood in the finals for crowd attendance or other reasons.

Bullies are at Mars Stadium vs Lions WJ in Round 10. 

Current 'state of the nation':

It all hinges on the dees vs freo and North vs Lions game this week!

We must beat Freo for 2nd spot.  Otherwise we lose it to Freo or Lions if they have a good win over North.  Lions have built up a fabulous % by thrashing lowly sides.  They will be desperate for that 2nd spot and the benefits that go with it.

 

17 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

We must beat Freo for 2nd spot.  Otherwise we lose it to Freo or Lions if they have a good win over North.  Lions have built up a fabulous % by thrashing lowly sides.  They will be desperate for that 2nd spot and the benefits that go with it.

Our poor percentage is going to cost us if we drop this week's game. It is likely the difference between 2nd and a home PF vs 4th and an away PF to Adelaide. Massive game.