with neitz and robbo with sore knees, one would assume that neither will play next week. i dont think there is heaps to come in from sandy but i think room needs to be made for sylvia and yze which is going to mean dropping a back (either chris johnson or wheatly) and dropping a midfielder. does holland get a run as a match up for oteens? we will need another tall back if ottens ablett n and hawkins all play.

in: holland, PJ, yze or sylvia

out: neitz and robbo (inj), wheatly,

i think if we lose neitz and robo there is a chance we will bring in another tall, either dunn (if fit) or newton (if judged ready)but im not sure who else to drop. yes players had bad days, but the players who didnt get touches were small backs...bell etc. i dont think bate godfrey green bruce or chunky could be dropped. im not sure if newton or dunn would make an impact so might be avoided. perhaps bate could be played as the other tall forward, but it leaves us without many 'true' forwards.

Our: The entire Melbourne side

In: Melbourne Demonland and Demonoligy members. Lets have a meeting this week and see which possie we can play. Finks coach, dipperdan captain lol

the way davey has played these past 2 games, needs a bit of the yze treatment if u ask me, really did very little.

Ins. A.Yze, C.Sylvia, M.Newton, S.Buckley

Outs. D.Neitz, R.Robertson, P.Wheatley, A.Davey

Agree. If Cats have those three talls, then Holland or Bizzell need to come into the team. Personally, I'd go for Bizzell, but Holland may be better for Ottens. Wheatley and Godfrey both proved today that they're not a part of the best 22 at the club, so they should make way.

In: P. Johnson, Sylvia, Pickett, Holland

Out: Neitz (inj.), Robertson (inj.), Wheatley, Godfrey

Ins. A.Yze, C.Sylvia, M.Newton, S.Buckley

Outs. D.Neitz, R.Robertson, P.Wheatley, A.Davey

Not bad.

If Pickett is fit, he gets the nod ahead of Buckley.

Not sure giving Yze one week in the VFL is going to change the way he goes about his game, but given our injury woes, we are not left with much choice.

Agree. If Cats have those three talls, then Holland or Bizzell need to come into the team. Personally, I'd go for Bizzell, but Holland may be better for Ottens. Wheatley and Godfrey both proved today that they're not a part of the best 22 at the club, so they should make way.

In: P. Johnson, Sylvia, Pickett, Holland

Out: Neitz (inj.), Robertson (inj.), Wheatley, Godfrey

godfrey doesnt deserve to be dropped after the way he played today

In: P. Johnson, Sylvia, Pickett, Holland

Out: Neitz (inj.), Robertson (inj.), Wheatley, Godfrey

i dont think godfrey was anywhere near our worst today. and it doesnt seem fair to drop him. he got a fair bit of the pill and kicked a couple of goals. i also dont think pickett is ready to come in yet,...another week at sandy before he gets up.

i think jamar can play out of the sqaure, but i dont think we can go with jamar and pj as our 2 forward targets...

well holland has to come in as they have ablett, mooney, ottens and hawkins going through the forward 50

sylvia in

pickett in

and either dunn or newton if neitz doesnt come up

and id bring the bizz in for ward

Daniher said on Channel 10 news that he will not rule out dropping Davey and Johnstone who he said were 'in shocking form'.

My changes

Out - Robbo, Neitz (inj), Jamar, C.Johnson, Wheatley, Ward

In - P.Johnson, Holland, Sylvia, Newton, Yze, Pickett

B - Whelan Carroll Bell

HB - Rivers Holland Pickett

C - Johnstone Jones Green

HF - Sylvia Miller Bruce

F - Yze Newton P.Johnson

R - White McDonald Moloney

I/C - Bate Brown Godfrey Davey

I did forget about Pickett although after what I saw on Satday he probably is probably another 2 weeks away. In an ideal world anyway!

what about fergie back in the side

Agree. If Cats have those three talls, then Holland or Bizzell need to come into the team. Personally, I'd go for Bizzell, but Holland may be better for Ottens. Wheatley and Godfrey both proved today that they're not a part of the best 22 at the club, so they should make way.

In: P. Johnson, Sylvia, Pickett, Holland

Out: Neitz (inj.), Robertson (inj.), Wheatley, Godfrey

Interesting ins. Paul Johnson was pathetic on Saturday. He dropped uncontested marks and did not get one hit out. Pickett was so unfit he played less than half a game and in the words of Mark Williams, who left him off the entire 2nd half " he was stuffed".

Then again they should be obvious ins the way we are going.

no to fergy, ever again!!!!

OUT: Wheatley (got your 100 games, now disappear), Neitz, Robbo

IN: Holland (Young Hawkins must think this game is easy, wait til the mechano man hassles him all night!!) Sylvia (forward line) and Newton (Full Forward

wouldn't mind seeing dunn back in for robbo's spot, but i dont think he is ready, sylvia can play forward line

we have to roll the dice on newton at full forward

B: Wheels Carroll Ferguson

HB: Rivers Holland Brown

C: Bruce Moloney Jones

HF: Green Miller Sylvia

F: White Newton Dunn

R: Jamar McDonnald Johnstone

I.C: Ward, Bate , C.Bizzell, S.Godfrey

Emm: Weetra, Buckley, Yze

Out: Neitz, Robbo, Bell, C.Johnson, Wheatley

In: Dunn, Newton, Holland, Sylvia, Biz

I do NOT want to see Bell or C.Johnson play for melb till they have shown something at sandy.

Interesting ins. Paul Johnson was pathetic on Saturday. He dropped uncontested marks and did not get one hit out. Pickett was so unfit he played less than half a game and in the words of Mark Williams, who left him off the entire 2nd half " he was stuffed".

Then again they should be obvious ins the way we are going.

dude thats a terrible comment. Yes paul Johnson dropped a pretty crucial sitting late in the game but he was definalt one of the best players for sandy. His work around the ground was very good. and he took a few nice marks as well as the ones he dropped! bring him in! Pickett did look very unfit

Melbourne Team v Cats

Backs:............. Holland, Carroll, Whelan

Half backs:....... Bizzell, Rivers, Bell

Centreline:....... Moloney, Bruce, Pickett

Half forwards:... Sylvia, P.Johnson, Bate

Forwards:......... Miller, Dunn, Yze

Followers:........ J.White, N.Jones, McDonald,

I/C From: Jamar, Green, Bartram, Johnstone

Out Inj: Neitz, Robbo,

Emergencies: Godfrey, Davey, N.Brown, C.Johnson, Wheatley, Petterd, Buckley

As much as I don't like it I believe we must bring back Yze before he deserves it, & Sylvia & Pickett Before they're cherry ripe. The season could get away from us.

B: WHELAN, CARROLL, FERGUSON

HB: BROWN, RIVERS, BIZZELL

C: BUCKLEY, JONES, YZE

HF: BATE, MILLER, SYLVIA

F: P.JOHNSON, HOLLAND, GREEN

FOLL: WHITE, BRUCE, MCDONALD

IC: GODFREY, JOHNSTONE, DAVEY, JAMAR

EMERG: WARD, MOLONEY, BELL

IN: FERGUSON, BUCKLEY, YZE, SYLVIA, P. JOHNSON, HOLLAND, BIZZELL

OUT : NEITZ, ROBERTSON, WHEATLEY (INJ) C.JOHNSON, WARD, MOLONEY, BELL

Daniher said on Channel 10 news that he will not rule out dropping Davey and Johnstone who he said were 'in shocking form'.

My changes

Out - Robbo, Neitz (inj), Jamar, C.Johnson, Wheatley, Ward

In - P.Johnson, Holland, Sylvia, Newton, Yze, Pickett

There is nothing more I would love to see than Melbourne drop C Johnson for Newton. Therer is not a chance in hell it will happen. Everyone seems to think Newton has a bad attitude and CJ is a player of the future. I disagree entirely.

there will be about 3 changes, i doubt many more

Newton is miles away from playing AFL footy, he will be lucky if he is not dropped from the Sandy's first after his game on Saturday, he got towelled in the first half. Pickett couldn't run out 2 quarters at Sandy he is 2-3 weeks away. Buckley may get his chance if they drop CJ. Ferguson plays well on N Ablett, smashed him in last years VFL grand final, Rivers plays on Hawkins and Carroll gets the hairy cat. Whelan on G Ablett better match up for him.

If it is dry and Neitz and Robbo don't play this would be my team

B Whelan Carroll Ferguson

HB Bell Rivers Green

C Bruce Johnstone Moloney

HF Buckley Miller Bate

FF Davey Sylvia Holland

R White Mcdonald Jones

Int Jamar Wheatley Brown Godfrey

If wet Biz comes in for Ferguson

Newton is miles away from playing AFL footy, he will be lucky if he is not dropped from the Sandy's first after his game on Saturday,

I'm not so sure Dr, what part of his game is he lacking? If you're worried about consistancy we're playing Miller at CHF every week.

There is nothing more I would love to see than Melbourne drop C Johnson for Newton. Therer is not a chance in hell it will happen. Everyone seems to think Newton has a bad attitude and CJ is a player of the future. I disagree entirely.

Newton doesn't have a bad attitude at all, I've been watching him play now thru 2 seasons. but what he is, is not ready yet. He's still young in his mind, not his fault, its his genes. He needs more time playing against hard headed men @ the vfl level. He's worth waiting for, be patient.

I'm not so sure Dr, what part of his game is he lacking? If you're worried about consistancy we're playing Miller at CHF every week.

It's not consistancy he is not ready for AFL footy, he needs to cement his spot at Sandy first, why play someone who is not ready and we all will expect so much from him if he does play. Let him play well at Sandy and bring him in when he is not going to be our number one target up forward. Don't get me wrong the kid has a lot of ability, but he has to show a lot more at Sandy to be even considered.

Interesting ins. Paul Johnson was pathetic on Saturday. He dropped uncontested marks and did not get one hit out. Pickett was so unfit he played less than half a game and in the words of Mark Williams, who left him off the entire 2nd half " he was stuffed".

Then again they should be obvious ins the way we are going.

Not one single hit out, except for the 28 hit outs he got (according to Hoju on Demonology, who counts the stats himself I believe). Some people just see what they want to see I think. Those sitters in the last quarters were howlers, yes, but prior to that PJ was easily the dominant ruckman for the game, both in hitouts and around the ground. Don't let a couple of (admittedly very bad) mistakes lend bias to your view.

As to the ins and outs:

Ins: Sylvia

Outs: Who cares