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May is proving to be a success but that was at the expense of Hogan

Langdon is close to being a success and I would go after his brother at the Pies.

Lever is not at this stage but could prove to be over a longer time frame on a reduced contract

Tomlinnson is not yet and unlikely to be the promised player to run up the wings at the G as spruiked by the Club

Score B  overall when it needed to be A

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    May is proving to be a success but that was at the expense of Hogan

    Langdon is close to being a success and I would go after his brother at the Pies.

    Lever is not at this stage but could prove to be over a longer time frame on a reduced contract

    Tomlinnson is not yet and unlikely to be the promised player to run up the wings at the G as spruiked by the Club

    Score B  overall when it needed to be A

    According to Nick Riewoldt:

    ”Melbourne has not had the same success. In recent years they have brought in Jake Lever, Steven May, Ed Langdon, Kade Kolodjashnij, Braydon Preuss and Adam Tomlinson.

    Of those six, Tomlinson has been a failure, Lever has looked shaky since his knee reconstruction, Preuss and Kolodjashnij have hardly played, Langdon has been OK and May has been good after poor start to his Melbourne career.”

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      On 28/08/2020 at 23:28, Demonland said:

    According to Nick Riewoldt:

    ”Melbourne has not had the same success. In recent years they have brought in Jake Lever, Steven May, Ed Langdon, Kade Kolodjashnij, Braydon Preuss and Adam Tomlinson.

    Of those six, Tomlinson has been a failure, Lever has looked shaky since his knee reconstruction, Preuss and Kolodjashnij have hardly played, Langdon has been OK and May has been good after poor start to his Melbourne career.”

    Yep, agree on Lever but gave him the benefit of further time and did not feel like getting howled down here today. I infered Tomlinson was a failure for the role he was recruited for and again have debated his worth enough already. I think Langdon has been a good pick up but that is through my Demon rose coloured glasses so Nick might be correct.

    Kolodjashnij was a bewildering pick.

    Preuss was a wait and hope.

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    Brad Hill is on 900k a year over 6 years and will be almost 34 at the end of that contract! Let’s just see how that plays out. The saints almost dropped him 6 weeks ago.

    Jake Lever had a horrific knee injury and is still only 24. We paid overs because he fit the list demographic perfectly.

    May is a huge win over Hogan, no matter how you look at it given what’s occurred.

    Everyone else is swings and roundabouts. I really rate Langdon in terms of what he offers to us structurally. He holds his shape better than any outside Melbourne player in 10 years.

    The issue with us has been player development. Fritsch, Harmes, Hannon, ANB and Brayshaw, Weed and Salem in particular (as high draft pics) just haven’t stepped up. We needed 2-3 of those guys to become solid talent, and some still have time, but haven’t don’t it yet.

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    I can't see the article and not sure what time frame it covers but comparing their trade-ins of the last 3 years with ours (named above) their's have collectively been a lot better:  Hill, Jones, Ryder, Howard and Butler.  Their flop is Hannebery due to his recurring injuries.

    They have used their last 3 top 10  draft pics wisely:  King (2018), Clark (2017), Coffield (2017). 

    That is virtually recruiting a new spine and wings with some mid field additions. 

    They are greater improvements in the last 3 years than ours.

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    Riewoldt says the Saints have got it right since 2014, while we haven't. 

    I recall us playing and winning more finals than them since 2014 but yeah, don't take those St. Kilda goggles off Nick. And yes, I am well aware they might play finals this year, but we can still play finals as well. 

    He also really only highlights the previous off season for St Kilda. Outside of Hannebery he doesn't talk about anyone else. 

    So yes, Nick, if you had of said that since 2019 the Saints have got it right compared to us, then I'd be inclined to agree. But since 2014? That's a longer bow to draw. 

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    Saints rebuild was so good they had to overpay, in some cases massively, for 5 players all at once to look even half decent.

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