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RON JOSEPH.....conflict?



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Am I correct in observing that Ron Joseph is an influential member of the Kangaroos' new Board?

Am I also correct in observing that he is a player manager of many AFL players, including some Demons?

If that is correct , am I justifiably perturbed that in his crucial dealings with players' contracts, he is duty-bound to extract as much money as possible from the players' Clubs? Given North's precarious financial position, is it not likely that his negtiations with players from other Clubscould be at a different level from those at his own? Even if he has no Kangaroos on his books, is he not in a position to cause list and financial disruption at rival clubs.

Summing up my concerns ... I think there is a significant conflict of interest having a player manager on a Club Board.

Especially a sleazy one like Joseph.

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I think you'll find Ron's day to day dealings with clients is now basically non-existent, and has been that way for 12 months or so.

But I stand to be corrected.

If it hasn't then there's definitely a conflict, especially given Joseph's track record or having players move clubs.

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Hards is correct that he isn't handling the day to day managing of the players but he would still have access to 'sensitive information' which could give his club an advantage when it comes to trading time.

Very ordinary decision by him imho.

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Hards is correct that he isn't handling the day to day managing of the players but he would still have access to 'sensitive information' which could give his club an advantage when it comes to trading time.

Very ordinary decision by him imho.

The AFL has a system which enables player/managers to be registered. From memory, I believe that Joseph has always resisted complying with the registration requirements and the AFL has sat back on its hands doing nothing (possibly fearing a restraint of trade action). Yes, it's a conflict situation and no, I don't think there's much the AFL can do about it under current rules although it should reintroduce the poaching rules to prevent Joseph from using his dual role to give the Kangaroos an unfair advantage.

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So Jarka, are you saying that his company manages players, but he doesn't have a hands on role? Or are you saying he has no input into player management.?

Only the latter is acceptable.

If he runs a sports management company that employs people to manage players, that's even worse than being the personal contact himself.

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So Jarka, are you saying that his company manages players, but he doesn't have a hands on role? Or are you saying he has no input into player management.?

Only the latter is acceptable.

If he runs a sports management company that employs people to manage players, that's even worse than being the personal contact himself.

This is just from memory from an interview with him on SEN a couple of weeks back - I took it as it's still his business but he doesn't have a hands on role anymore. I have no idea if he has access to the sensitive information, that was just a guess.

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Lets not kid ourselves no-one that owns a business steps right out of the action and lets it be taken over by others. He would have major influence and knowledge from player clients. Front page news for trivial stuff like Lance whitnell and yet blatent conflicts of interest s like this go unmentioned. The whole AFL is like an 'Old Boys Club' and even though its a big business it only gets worse. Once your in the AFL system its like a job for life as People jump from position to position and club to club. This is just another example.

Needless to say this FACT gets little coverage in the media, who although like to make out they ruffle feathers, its only to a point.

Its time all aspects of the AFL had some new life breathed into it, especially in the media so that there is at least some transperancy in a ever growing multi million dollar industry.

Just my opinion.

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