On 25/04/2018 at 04:52, Deespicable said:

Dropping Stretch is what I'm sure a lot of you will want, but doesn't he deserve another go against a slightly less physical opponent before we terminate his career (as some of you have)?

Ironic given that in the same breath you just said that last years leading goalkicker was "close to career over" after just 2 bad games.

  On 25/04/2018 at 09:31, P-man said:

For god’s sake give them a tall marketing target or someone to bring the ball to ground. I don’t care if it’s Pedo or T Mac. Just give them SOMEONE. If Hogan is going to play up the ground then he and the rest of the side need someone to kick the [censored] thing to when they look up.

Harmes still isn’t up to the level as a starter for mine.

I cant remember a Hunt kick that wasn’t a shank.

Stretch looked out of his depth. Maybe the occasion got to him.

I can’t be bothered thinking any further about who comes out. Kudos to those who can.

This [censored] club.

 

Totally agree.

We need multiple targets, the current structure isn’t working.

  On 25/04/2018 at 09:31, P-man said:

For god’s sake give them a tall marketing target or someone to bring the ball to ground. I don’t care if it’s Pedo or T Mac. Just give them SOMEONE. If Hogan is going to play up the ground then he and the rest of the side need someone to kick the [censored] thing to when they look up.

Harmes still isn’t up to the level as a starter for mine.

I cant remember a Hunt kick that wasn’t a shank.

Stretch looked out of his depth. Maybe the occasion got to him.

I can’t be bothered thinking any further about who comes out. Kudos to those who can.

This [censored] club.

 

T-Mac half a game at Casey surely after that long out of the game.  St Kilda maybe.

I would prefer a tall marking target than can kick straight and potentially get two or three goals PLUS bring the ball to ground busting packs and the occasional pack mark.  The only option available who has form at Casey.... Pedders.

In: Petty, Balic, Lewis, Fritsch

Out: ANB, Stretch, Kent, Harmes

B - Jetta, O Mac, Lever

HB - Hibberd, Petty, Hunt

C - Jones, Oliver, Brayshaw

HF - Petracca, Hogan, Fritsch

F - Garlett, Weideman, Melksham

R - Gawn, Salem, Tyson

I - Lewis, Balic, Wagner, Vince

Notes: We lose a bit of speed but clean ball use is more important and if you move the ball well it means you are less reliant on running as the ball does the running for you. Essendon are also tall.

ANB are Stretch were a class below last night. Harmes hasn't had a good game all year so others need a chance to perform.

  On 25/04/2018 at 04:52, Deespicable said:

In: Fritsch, Hannan and T-Mac (If ready)

Out: Kent, ANB and Weid (if T-Mac returns).

Dropping the Weid is crazy talk. You want to keep spuds like Harmes, Wagner and Stretch ahead of him WTF.

Hannan and Fritsch out of form Pedersen in form don't want him in. I'm willing to give Fritsch another go but Hannan is a slap in the face to Pedersen.

T.Mac to steady the backline which is a shambles and Pedo to help out the Weid with Hogan playing further up the ground.

   

 

 

 

 

  On 25/04/2018 at 09:51, Delusional Dee said:

In: Petty, Balic, Lewis, Fritsch

Out: ANB, Stretch, Kent, Harmes

B - Jetta, O Mac, Lever

HB - Hibberd, Petty, Hunt

C - Jones, Oliver, Brayshaw

HF - Petracca, Hogan, Fritsch

F - Garlett, Weideman, Melksham

R - Gawn, Salem, Tyson

I - Lewis, Balic, Wagner, Vince

Notes: We lose a bit of speed but clean ball use is more important and if you move the ball well it means you are less reliant on running as the ball does the running for you. Essendon are also tall.

ANB are Stretch were a class below last night. Harmes hasn't had a good game all year so others need a chance to perform.

Petty got 5 touches in the VFL gonna play him off that form are you? I can't believe no one has Pedersen in the side we need a 3rd tall.

Balic has only played 1 good game of VFL football.

Too much serial black gloom on this thread. It's obvious that the absence of T.Mac and Viney has seriously affected the balance of the mid field and the whole structure of the forward line. Once you have balance and structure in place the likes of Garlett, Harmes, Neal Bullen and Melksham are able to play their natural games. That semblance of balance resulted in Melbourne missing the 8 last year by .5 of a % point, despite the absence of Gawn, Hogan,  Jones and Viney.

It would seem, as well, that the coaches box is a wee bit behind the 8 ball with its instructions about long bombs and lowering of the eyes. Either that or the players just don't listen or they feel way too pressured to respond properly. 

I had a phone call today from a bloke whose wine I sell. He was on North's List during the Barassi era. He said the coach is not up to it. He says, by the way, the same about the current North coach.

I bet a thousand dollars that Richmond fans - and the media - said for years Hardwick wasn't up to it. I bet another thousand that for the first couple of years Bomber Thomson wasn't up to it. I also know Kennett wanted to sack Clarkson in 2010. 

There are a lot of 'wise and foolish virgins' - as the Parable goes, on this site.

Also, to those who feel that because they follow a footy club that it 'owes' them ultimate success have been reading too much Ayn Rand.

  On 25/04/2018 at 09:47, Rusty Nails said:

T-Mac half a game at Casey surely after that long out of the game.  St Kilda maybe.

I would prefer a tall marking target than can kick straight and potentially get two or three goals PLUS bring the ball to ground busting packs and the occasional pack mark.  The only option available who has form at Casey.... Pedders.

Why? Even if he's not fully fit he will still be better than half the team. I'll lose my [censored] if he plays at Casey in a must win game. Play your best players T.Mac is one of our best players.

  On 25/04/2018 at 09:57, WERRIDEE said:

Petty got 5 touches in the VFL gonna play him off that form are you? I can't believe no one has Pedersen in the side we need a 3rd tall.

Balic has only played 1 good game of VFL football.

I don't think we have a choice. We need an extra tall for Essendon in the backline and Frost has had a chance and failed. Pederson is not a backman. Do you really think ANB, Stretch or Harmes will play any better than Balic? Give him a go.

  On 25/04/2018 at 10:18, Delusional Dee said:

I don't think we have a choice. We need an extra tall for Essendon in the backline and Frost has had a chance and failed. Pederson is not a backman. Do you really think ANB, Stretch or Harmes will play any better than Balic? Give him a go.

There is a bloke called Tom McDonald maybe you've heard of him?

  On 25/04/2018 at 10:23, WERRIDEE said:

There is a bloke called Tom McDonald maybe you've heard of him?

If he is fit, great, bring him in...didn't know he was right to go. So I'm assuming we are dumping the idea of him being a forward this year?

  On 25/04/2018 at 10:33, Delusional Dee said:

If he is fit, great, bring him in...didn't know he was right to go. So I'm assuming we are dumping the idea of him being a forward this year?

As long as Weid and\or Pedo can do something up forward I would dump the idea.

OUTS ... 

Stretch fumbly and nervous

ANB Not up to it

Harmes DITTO

Kent More hamstring woes

Garlett Two bad games in a row Must go

INNS...

Fritsch

Hannan

Spargo

Pedo 

Frost

Don't tell me about matchups lets pick our best side!!

 

Garlett has to be dropped to find some form. Most of his goals this year have been gimmes and his defensive pressure work is at an all time low.

Spargo is renowned for his pressure and tackling and he’s got on end of some goals in the VFL. If he can bring half of what Jack higgjns did for Richmond last night it’ll be a worthy inclusion.

Inject some new blood Goodwin and send Jeffy a required message. Leave him in and what message does he receive?

  On 25/04/2018 at 09:51, Delusional Dee said:

In: Petty, Balic, Lewis, Fritsch

Out: ANB, Stretch, Kent, Harmes

B - Jetta, O Mac, Lever

HB - Hibberd, Petty, Hunt

C - Jones, Oliver, Brayshaw

HF - Petracca, Hogan, Fritsch

F - Garlett, Weideman, Melksham

R - Gawn, Salem, Tyson

I - Lewis, Balic, Wagner, Vince

Notes: We lose a bit of speed but clean ball use is more important and if you move the ball well it means you are less reliant on running as the ball does the running for you. Essendon are also tall.

ANB are Stretch were a class below last night. Harmes hasn't had a good game all year so others need a chance to perform.

Speed is our biggest issue. 

If we pick a slow side on Ethihad, we will get killed.

T Mac will play this week. 

Who the fuuurg is PETTY??

I know Tom Petty ( Was Excellent muso) 

Are we talking Pedo??

And again Stretch has to go just doesn't cut it for me!

  On 25/04/2018 at 10:46, picket fence said:

OUTS ... 

Stretch fumbly and nervous

ANB Not up to it

Harmes DITTO

Kent More hamstring woes

Garlett Two bad games in a row Must go

INNS...

Fritsch

Hannan

Spargo

Pedo 

Frost

Don't tell me about matchups lets pick our best side!!

 

I thought you said Frost is a spud. Not up to it. McDonald is the man. Harsh on Garlett his 2 games before that were superb.

  On 25/04/2018 at 09:53, WERRIDEE said:

Dropping the Weid is crazy talk. You want to keep spuds like Harmes, Wagner and Stretch ahead of him WTF.

Hannan and Fritsch out of form Pedersen in form don't want him in. I'm willing to give Fritsch another go but Hannan is a slap in the face to Pedersen.

T.Mac to steady the backline which is a shambles and Pedo to help out the Weid with Hogan playing further up the ground.

 

Like it

  On 25/04/2018 at 10:56, WERRIDEE said:

 

I thought you said Frost is a spud. Not up to it. McDonald is the man. Harsh on Garlett his 2 games before that were superb.

Nup never ever said Frost is a spud!! I like his verve and dash AND PACE!

RE Jeffy

You are not going to gain any consistency or pressure to perform when you play two good ones and two extremely poor ones. A talented player who needs to be dropped to develop these principles. It sends a strong message 

Perform or else!! Two really bad games and you want to give him another??

How typically Melbourne!

Nup Not in my team!

Out: Kent, Harmes, ANB, Stretch

In: Spargo, Pedo, Lewis, Fritsch

  On 25/04/2018 at 11:02, juzzk1d said:

Out: Kent, Harmes, ANB, Stretch

In: Spargo, Pedo, Lewis, Fritsch

Like it but Lewis will be another week Hannan to come in!

Frost also must be in the mix! 

Garlett as I have said should be dropped!

  On 25/04/2018 at 11:08, picket fence said:

Like it but Lewis will be another week Hannan to come in!

Frost also must be in the mix! 

Garlett as I have said should be dropped!

Lewis said on the radio Tues night he is right to go this week. Still like to see Hannan in though.

Out:

Kent : Injured.... replace with Pederson

Harmes : omitted....... replace with Frost (we need his Height and speed to go against Daniher )

Garlett : Times up....... Replace with Spargo

Stretch : Good VFL......replace with Oskar Baker

ANB : Lost form.......replace with Fritsch

Now I know you say what about Lewis. If it wasn't for his hand injury he would have been dropped.

Jetta is still carrying an injury. who do you replace him with, our defence is 3 old players who are carrying injuries and 3 young ones who are still learning their craft.

We are now in deep DOO DOO's

 

We still stand a chance against the Bombers, they are just as bad.

T Mac and Lewis in for Kent and Stretch. If Jetta's ankle hasnt recovered the keep Stretch in the team. 

  On 25/04/2018 at 11:22, Barney Rubble said:

Frost (we need his Height and speed to go against Daniher )

Frost won't be on Daniher if he plays IMO he shouldn't.

Oscar takes the best forward everyone knows that.