It's all about culture, behaviours and outcomes.

AFC

• Culture: Middle class, however one-sided / parochial
• Behaviour: No loud swearing, no gloating if you're an opposition supporter of a side that has the temerity to be actually winning
• Outcomes: You may be invited back again.

MCC

• Culture: Middle class, mixed supporter base, MFC bias
• Behaviour: Wear a collar, keep swearing to relatively inaudible levels, support whomever you like.
• Outcome: Membership will not be suspended of cancelled

EFC

• Culture: Belief that you are above the law
• Behaviour: Do whatever the football department tells you to do; sign waiver documents
• Outcome: Emerge looking like a porcupine.

I'll never forget going to a match against Carlton at the MCG. It must have been early 80's. I sat in Bay thirteen with my brother who was a Fitzroy man. At half time the Blues were 13 goals, we were something like 2. I was surrounded by Carlton supporters and to keep myself amused in the first half I kept yelling out no side could be that good, they had to be on drugs.

At half time, time for a pie and a pee I got up and tried to pass along my row, past the Carlton fans. They wanted to fight me. I kept laughing and tried to point out I was taking the puss, that it was the only way a Demon supporter could survive. They still wanted to fight me.

Ironically we outscored them in the second half. Still lost by 10 goals.....

20 hours ago, Demonland said:

I must say I hate it when I see Dees fans bring in opposition fan guests into my Melbourne "only" area. Especially if we lose. If we win then I love it.

Agreed. 

My best friend who is a Carlton supporter is the exception, as she knows her team is rubbish and acts accordingly.

Biggest pet hate is Collingwood supporters somehow making their way into Melbourne reserves on Queens Birthday. Go away you filthy scum! 

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

I have spent some time in SA. Generally its a very like-able place.

Some observations:

It has a different culture to Vic and that include's football culture.

It is more parochial than Vic.  Locals are encouraged to buy SA goods. There is a much stronger focus on jobs for SA. 

Melbourne and Vic tends to be left out of the news particularly footy news. It's Crows and Port news but little or no coverage of other clubs. 

SA has a stronger footy culture than Vic. The minor leagues including country leagues are much stronger than Vic. If you go to a league such as the Greater Southern Football League, most towns have a team and strong depth in colts/juniors. The standard of football is better than in Vic. The competition is tough but not as dirty as local Victorian leagues and I would say that matches are conducted in a much better spirit than in Victoria. You are expected to do the right thing. There is less competition with the other sports, such as soccer and rugby etc. Similarly for girls, netball is huge.

South Aussies are more polite, courteous and private than Victorians. They tend to be less overtly critical and do not gossip about one another. Interaction/communication tends to be circuitous and less direct. This can be very frustrating as conversations take longer and can be very indirect. You don't  necessarily get an answer to your question first up or you don't ask the question first up. There is the feeling that everyone knows everyone and networks go back over many generations. Like a small country town, you need to be careful what you say. There is clearly less ethnic diversity and people are more homogeneous.   There are more rules and etiquette is observed. Sometimes rules are observed, sometimes not, and sometimes etiquette is more important than the rules. There is the sense of either being an insider or an outsider. If you come from Victoria, you are clearly an outsider. There are things you will never know or never be told because you are an outsider. 

There is a stronger divide than in Melbourne between those that are part of the old establishment and the rest.  The quiet unstated sense of superiority from old Adelaide, particularly if you went to one of the establishment private schools such as St Peters or PAC, is very strong and influences social groupings and jobs. 

This sense of superiority tends to be more strongly displayed by Crows supporters than PA supporters.  They expect to win all the time and there is less resilience to defeat. Just look at recent weeks. They would not have been able to comprehend a loss to Melbourne last week. 

At local footy games, supporters are very polite to one another and there is less baiting of opposition supporters, even where the supporters look as feral as anywhere else.

In regard to footy there are different groupings.

There are the Crows and PA supporters. As everyone knows they hate one another, and that hatred has stronger roots than the Vic rivalries. And often the hatred between the two SA clubs is stronger than hatred for Vic clubs. 

Crows and PA supporters still hate interstate clubs. Kick a Vic is still often talked about, probably stemming from the old days of interstate footy, when Victoria dominated the competition and when many ex-SA footballers played for VFL sides and indeed for the VFL state side. Many South Aussies think that Victorians behave in an arrogant, and sometimes rude or superior manner.  

Many South Aussies also support a side in the SANFL.

Many South Aussies have a soft spot for a Vic club, probably as a result of the old days of state based leagues.

A minority of South Aussies support a Vic club over a local club. I met quite a lot of Demon fans in SA. 

I have probably made many generalizations and my comments are perhaps loosely formed opinions. However, if nothing else there are major differences between South Aussies and Victorians and this is reflected in many things including footy. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They spat on my car because of Victorian Plates

the whole state could burn and i wouldn't shed one tear

 

13 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

They spat on my car because of Victorian Plates

the whole state could burn and i wouldn't shed one tear

 

Burning the whole state seems a pretty drastic response to one person spitting on your car - as revolting as it is.

Just now, Nasher said:

Burning the whole state seems a pretty drastic response to one person spitting on your car - as revolting as it is.

I have a long Memory Nasher. 

I couldn't even wash the car before i left because their cruddy water is so hard!!

who else on here was at the 1989 State Game?

it was truly glorious!!

Vic v Sa 

Great battles. .... with a bit of footy thrown in 

9 hours ago, hemingway said:

I have spent some time in SA. Generally its a very like-able place.

Some observations:

 

Interesting insights. Persisting cultural traits that are perhaps suggestive of SA's greater British lineage?

Can you now do a comparison between Havana and Idaho?

From Facebook...

 

Burning a state that contains the regions of the Barossa, McLaren Vale and the Coonawarra is biting your nose off to spite your face.

Victoria > South Australia 

That is all.

Wrong thread. 

Edited May 21, 20178 yr by frankie_d

On ‎19‎/‎05‎/‎2017 at 6:36 AM, Skuit said:

You're talking about a supporter-base which was famously known at the time as the 'Chardonnay Club'? I was a Footy Park member from the AFL get-go, and I always felt that the 40,000 Crows supporters would get quite easily intimidated by a very small contingent of toothless Pies or Tigers fans. Never saw any biffo whatsoever in all my years of attending, and find it bizarre that people are talking of a threatening environment. We Crow-eaters are are odd and inbred lot, but beside a mass-murderer here and there and the ultra-perverted underground criminal elite, we're hardly what could be described as menacing.

Must have been a dream......with audio : " Long Way Back to Malben "