16 hours ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tg-st-kilda-saints

saints won twice against bombers, blues and us playing at etihad 6 wins (I think one Carlton game was at the G  actually )

only beat injury ravaged dogs and Geelong on an off day at Etihad as teams inside top 8

the draw last year was flattering to them, by comparison our draw was one of the toughest 

In short they beat the teams below them, got smashed interstate and only beat serious top 8 teams on a fast track Etihad 

And some are predicting that they'll find another four odd wins to finish in the top six, while holding ground against us, the Bombers, Freo and Carlton and getting their % under control on the road. 14 games at Etihad last season and routinely hammered away.

unless the Saints get a dream draw again and have almost no injuries all year again - they will slide.  8-10 wins.

god I will love it when we beat them next year. LOVE IT!

20 hours ago, Skuit said:

I don't get the love for the Saints. Can someone explain it to me.

Well they beat us everytime

1: GWS (might not lose a game)

2:sydney

3:west coast (Mitchell will be good for them)

4: geelong 

5:Adelaide 

6: hawthorn

7:melbourne

8:st Kilda 

Bulldogs to do a Hawks of 2008 

from about 4th down to 12th will be nothing in it 

 

if GWS Don't win the flag it's a massive fail imo

Edited October 26, 20168 yr by brendan

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

unless the Saints get a dream draw again and have almost no injuries all year again - they will slide.  8-10 wins.

god I will love it when we beat them next year. LOVE IT!

They'll end up with 14-15 Etihad games again. They'll be gifted a finals berth. Bookmark it.

1. GWS

2. Sydney 

3. Bulldogs 

4. Geelong (just)

5. Melbourne 

6. St Kilda

7. Adelaide 

8. West Coast 

Hawks to just miss and Roos for bottom 4.

1. GWS

2. Bulldogs

3. Sydney 

4. Geelong 

5. Adelaide

6. Hawthorn

7. Melbourne 

8. St Kilda (W.C on equal wins, Saints percentage to get them over the line)

19 hours ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tg-st-kilda-saints

saints won twice against bombers, blues and us playing at etihad 6 wins (I think one Carlton game was at the G  actually )

only beat injury ravaged dogs and Geelong on an off day at Etihad as teams inside top 8

the draw last year was flattering to them, by comparison our draw was one of the toughest 

In short they beat the teams below them, got smashed interstate and only beat serious top 8 teams on a fast track Etihad 

Yeah, but what did we do against the Bombers and the Blues?  Lost in embarrassing fashion!  They won games they should have won which is something we still need to improve.

I think there's 14 teams who legitimately believe they can make it.  IMO Brisbane, GC, Carlton and North can't - but it's quite likely most of them think they can.

On 10/25/2016 at 2:01 PM, DubDee said:

In order:

GWS

Sydney

Bulldogs

Geelong

Adelaide

[daylight]

Demons

Pies

Hawks

Lol.

54 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

I think there's 14 teams who legitimately believe they can make it.  IMO Brisbane, GC, Carlton and North can't - but it's quite likely most of them think they can.

Really, Old? Surely you don't think Richmond can make it, let alone Collingwood. I'm not convinced on Freo either. They'll certainly be better, but I reckon Lyon's game style is finished. Can he reinvent himself?

I actually think the Swans' experience and 'big brother complex' will ensure they stay on top of GWS, but I'd be backing GWS for the flag next year. I'd also expect the Dogs to get into the top 4. That leaves one spot in the top 4 that's open. Now, it depends on how far Geelong and Hawthorn slide. They're both eminently beatable these days and will be more so next year. So I'd be looking at a team like Adelaide to take that fourth spot. That leaves a string of other teams that you could raffle: Hawthorn, Geelong, West Coast, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Essendon and St Kilda. Collingwood will be a mid-table team again next year, as will Freo. Richmond will find themselves there too or even lower. That leaves the Suns, Carlton, Brisbane and North. 

So something like this IMO:

1st - Sydney

2nd - GWS

3rd - Bulldogs

4th - Adelaide

5th - Geelong

6th - Hawthorn

7th - West Coast

8th - Melbourne

9th - St Kilda

10th - Port Adelaide

11th - Essendon

12th - Collingwood

13th - Fremantle

14th - Richmond

15th - Gold Coast

16th - Carlton

17th - Brisbane

18th - North Melbourne

Edited October 26, 20168 yr by A F

1 hour ago, A F said:

Really, Old? Surely you don't think Richmond can make it, let alone Collingwood. I'm not convinced on Freo either. They'll certainly be better, but I reckon Lyon's game style is finished. Can he reinvent himself?

I actually think the Swans' experience and 'big brother complex' will ensure they stay on top of GWS, but I'd be backing GWS for the flag next year. I'd also expect the Dogs to get into the top 4. That leaves one spot in the top 4 that's open. Now, it depends on how far Geelong and Hawthorn slide. They're both eminently beatable these days and will be more so next year. So I'd be looking at a team like Adelaide to take that fourth spot. That leaves a string of other teams that you could raffle: Hawthorn, Geelong, West Coast, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Essendon and St Kilda. Collingwood will be a mid-table team again next year, as will Freo. Richmond will find themselves there too or even lower. That leaves the Suns, Carlton, Brisbane and North. 

I do genuinely think it is possible for Collingwood, Richmond or Freo to make the 8. They have all improved their lists and Freo will get Fyfe, Bennell and Sandilands back.  Not likely but possible.

23 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

I do genuinely think it is possible for Collingwood, Richmond or Freo to make the 8. They have all improved their lists and Freo will get Fyfe, Bennell and Sandilands back.  Not likely but possible.

Richmond have swapped one injury prone mid for another and got a B grader (at best) in Caddy. Buckley can't coach either. Freo I'll admit is a slight possibility, but only slight.

time for everyone to start taking Hawthorn out - they will miss Rough, Lewis, Mitchell. Who even knows if Jaeger will play but he isn't any of those premiership stars and neither is the new Mitchell