Fresh off his dismantling of Marc Muprhy on the weekend, Nathan Jopnes is rated as 106th best player in the league by the morons at afl.com.au

Have a look at some of the names ahead of him and you just shake your head

Should be in the top 40 at worst. What a disgrace that website is

Who cares? when leaders needed to step up on Saturday Jones and Grimes stepped up. Anyone at Carlton???Murphy???Gibbs??? anyone....

Who cares? when leaders needed to step up on Saturday Jones and Grimes stepped up. Anyone at Carlton???Murphy???Gibbs??? anyone....

What's that, 2 no.1 draft picks failed to deliver again?

Carlton took Gibbs over Selwood. Nice to know were not alone.

I don't hold weight to any of these lists.

Not because they don't include Jones, but because the so-called experts have only just started making Ablett a lock for no 1.

Ablett has been a lock since 2008, yet now they just start to give him props.

So not enough Ablett love and too much Nic Nat and Buddy love.

Big on the hype and little on the out put.

Jones a top 15 players in the league as of now.
Some would say he could be lower.

Carlton took Gibbs over Selwood. Nice to know were not alone.

Ah yes, we all remember the Bryce Gibbs cup (the Bombers were involved in that game as well) Tanking has been going on for a long long time - right back to the 90's. Judd has been tanked for twice.

For a long time tanking was given the green light and people turned a blind eye - I often wonder why the football world suddenly changed their tune. And why the focus only on us?

If it looks like Carlton have a real chance for the no.1 pick this year, the Blues will tank for that pick and no one will care. After all, they tanked for Walker, Kennedy, Murphy, Gibbs, Kreuzer and Judd and got away with it. Why not go for the "magnificent" seven? :-7

As long as being rated number 106 doesn't make Nathan Jones a worse player on the field, I don't give a rats what the AFL or anyone else thinks about him.

Pretty sure those rankings are taken over the last 40 games or so so 1 good game isn't going to see someone shoot up the rankings. It's a cumulative rank to get greater balance.

Carlton took Gibbs over Selwood. Nice to know were not alone.

Again, it must be wonderful having hindsight glasses.

Have a read - who would you have picked at the time

1. Bryce Gibbs (Carlton). This is an era of dominant midfielders and Gibbs is by far the brightest midfield prospect available. Genuinely football smart and takes up intelligent, dangerous positions, accumulates high kick numbers, uses the ball superbly and creates and kicks goals. Not a speedster and probably not a hard-ball player; very much in the Ben Cousins or Nick Stevens playmaker mould. Will play next year and will be a preseason favourite for the Rising Star. At 187cm he is very much the modern midfielder who could develop into a Lenny Hayes type centre square presence.

6. Joel Selwood (Hawthorn). Selwood is a high-possession running player similar to Shane Crawford. He doesn’t have pure leg speed and his kicking can be hit and miss. He gets teams going forward and can be sharp in tight spaces. Very good a metre or two off the pack. A genuine playmaker and a good choice to put in the centre between wingmen Ellis and Muston. A year-long knee injury may see his value drop, but not too far. Has good leadership qualities.

So he's gone down since the season started? Down from 81 I think it was to 106? Wow...