Heath Shaw

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

Sorry posted this by mistake.

Lots of talk on radio this morning that Heath Shaw should be put up for trade.

Would we be interested in getting him.

Some scribes think that he would be a good fit for the Dees.

Roos maybe able to curtail his wayward nature a bit.

Any thoughts?

[DeeMfc 621]

Would prefer we trade for needs (True Mids) and any draft picks used on best available.

[stuie 7,374]

[Dees2014 2,377]

This in my view is in the same category as Didak. Shaw is a senior member of the Woods rat pack We would be buying trouble, totally against the "no [censored]" philosophy. I can tell you, Roos wouldn't wear it in a fit.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

Apparently Roos turned Rhys Shaw around and made a very accountable player.

[jazza 1,323]

has been a consistent DH

involved in the drink driving,lies,threatening taxi drivers

on field ,blow ups abuse.racial abuse,

reckon I could upset him with some well timed baits

this man is not likely to help OUR club

yep lets get him

ooops forgot,we now have a sensible person in charge

[Sir Why You Little 36,983]

If anyone can extract the best out of Heath it is PR...if there is anything to extract.

I am 50/50 on players like this...i will let PR sought it out

Membership is paid Roosy...you choose the side.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

Roos could change him?

Not so sure about that, especially when Shaw himself has said he has been unable to change over the past decade and is too old to change now.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

I wold take him for the right trade in a heartbeat.

We have one running half back who uses the ball well and makes smart decisions and that's a first year player in Terlich.

Shaw would be great as another. I would swap him with someone like Dunn in an instant.

Of course we need to address the midfield first and foremost but it's also about adding talent to our entire list and Shaw plays his position very well indeed.

[What 18,810]

Apparently Roos turned Rhys Shaw around and made a very accountable player.

and Rhys Shaw was like 22 when that happened

Heath would be pushing 30

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

I don't give a [censored] about his history. Roos would sort that out no problem and his past doesn't affect his onfield performance does it?

It's a non-argument. He may have troubles at Collingwood which is clearly why he's being talked up as someone to move on. That doesn't mean he'll carry those problems to the next club.

Fevola is the only one who I can think of who couldn't change his destructive behaviour out of how many? And now we are blessed to have a coach who is famous for his player development skills. Give me a [censored] break people.

I'd be more than happy to go after him.

Edited September 12, 2013 by stevethemanjordan

[stuie 7,374]

I don't give a [censored] about his history. Roos would sort that out no problem and his past doesn't affect his onfield performance does it?

It's a non-argument. He may have troubles at Collingwood which is clearly why he's being talked up as someone to move on. That doesn't mean he'll carry those problems to the next club.

Fevola is the only one who I can think of who couldn't change. Please list some others all you naysayers?

If he has enough troubles that his current club wants to get rid of him, why would those troubles not bother us?

It IS an argument.

[Moonshadow 17,675]

Trouble is his middle name.

Sydney with culture turning around Rhys Shaw is not the same as MFC without culture taking onboard brat Heath.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Why don't you just give an explanation as to why you wouldn't want him if we were to get a fair deal done?

[Fat Tony 5,220]

Depends on the price (contract and trade), but at his age and likely value we are probably better off going for some younger midfielders or players in their 30s who we can acquire for nothing.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

and Rhys Shaw was like 22 when that happened

Heath would be pushing 30

Not quite.

He is pushing 28 which gives him 2 years worth of currency with a bit of mongrel that our side needs.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

If he has enough troubles that his current club wants to get rid of him, why would those troubles not bother us?

It IS an argument.

It's a non-argument. I've just listed one player who carried his behaviour on to another club in Brendon Fevola.

I've asked you to list others. You can't. So it's a non-argument.

[3Dee 1,153]

can see this panning out ala T.Gillies, player too big for his boots from successful to lowly club, don't even think Roos could save him, which is unfortuanate and not worth the gamble.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

It's a non-argument. I've just listed one player who carried his behaviour on to another club in Brendon Fevola.

I've asked you to list others. You can't. So it's a non-argument.

Nick Davis, despite his finals heroics, returned to the outer under Roos.

[stuie 7,374]

It's a non-argument. I've just listed one player who carried his behaviour on to another club in Brendon Fevola.

I've asked you to list others. You can't. So it's a non-argument.

So you think the club with the weakest culture in the AFL should bring in a disruptive divisive player who has been rejected by his long time club due to his behaviour?

Other players aren't the point.

Again, why is it being discussed if it's a "non-argument" as you say?

[felixdacat 459]

Depends on the price (contract and trade), but at his age and likely value we are probably better off going for some younger midfielders or players in their 30s who we can acquire for nothing.

I agree FT I would be concerned on his price we need to ensure we are not paying a lot of money for players of his age. Another person for mick at Carlton you would think.

[stuie 7,374]

"Players are frustrated at his inability to play to team structures, with Shaw and captain Nick Maxwell often fighting about team tactics during games."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/heath-shaws-elimination-final-meltdown-is-likely-to-see-him-traded-by-collingwood/story-fni5f6hd-1226717116982

Gee, wonder why people don't want him?!

[stuie 7,374]

He kicked 4 goals in the last quarter of a final against Geelong to get them into a prelim or grandfinal I believe.

It's gone down as one of the most incredible individual efforts in a quarter of football. And it was a final.

Are you having a laugh mate?

He was really devastating to the that clubs culture wasn't he....

Jesus Christ.

Sooooooo they're thinking of trading him why again?

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Nick Davis, despite his finals heroics, returned to the outer under Roos.

He kicked 4 goals in the last quarter of a final against Geelong to get them into a prelim or grandfinal I believe.

It's gone down as one of the most incredible individual efforts in a quarter of football. And it was a final.

Are you having a laugh mate?

He was really devastating to the that clubs culture wasn't he....

Jesus Christ.

[stuie 7,374]

They're looking to trade him because of his bad influence on the clubs culture.

I just can't fathom why people are then trying to argue he's not bad for club culture.

Amazing.