I know its early, but AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News. on facebook made their own mock draft. They are quite credible, as they are ran by the Supercoach Paige or are closely related too, plus they take a fans perspective. At the moment they have us taking Aish at #2 and Alex Spina at pick #21.

How could we overlook Luke Dunstan for Alex Spina?

How could we overlook Luke Dunstan for Alex Spina?

We wouldn't mate, if Dunstan is there at 21 i guarantee we draft him.

Aish isn't so set in stone there are a few options at the top of the draft

This is a good website for AFL. Has good write-ups on draft prospects and a 2013 Mock Draft.

http://boundforglorynews.com/2013-rising-stars-phantom-draft/

This is a good website for AFL. Has good write-ups on draft prospects and a 2013 Mock Draft.

http://boundforglorynews.com/2013-rising-stars-phantom-draft/

I found something i don't like about it in the first 4 picks, sure us and GWS could in theory pass on boyd, but i doubt Stkilda would very much, they need him as much as the doggies

This is a good website for AFL. Has good write-ups on draft prospects and a 2013 Mock Draft.http://boundforglorynews.com/2013-rising-stars-phantom-draft/

Boyd slide to pick 4? Yeah... nah.

Boyd slide to pick 4? Yeah... nah.

agree fanciful mock draft

Boyd at #4 ... joke

Zac Jones at 46 ... joke (MFC would snap up at 38 or I will tear up my membership)

Patrick Cripps at 25 ... joke ... he is ready to go and will be taken top 15

Trent Dumont at 31 ... joke - this kid will go top 20 but if he falls to #21 I will do cartwheels

agree fanciful mock draft

Boyd at #4 ... joke

Zac Jones at 46 ... joke (MFC would snap up at 38 or I will tear up my membership)

Patrick Cripps at 25 ... joke ... he is ready to go and will be taken top 15

Trent Dumont at 31 ... joke - this kid will go top 20 but if he falls to #21 I will do cartwheels

Interesting, they've changed it in the last hour or so. When I looked they had Jones going to Geelong at 35. If he goes at 46ish we'd be crazy not to grab him.

Coach = Mark Williams
Football Manager = Geoff Walsh
Michael Voss = new Midfield coach
Neil Craig = senior development coach

Mini-Draft pick (17yo) - traded to Suns for pick 5

Trades- pick 2 to Collingwood for Steele Sidebottom and pick 12
Trades- Daniel Nicholson to Crows for Jarryd Lyons

Trades- 55 to Cats for Jordie Schroder
Draft - pick 5 (PP) Matt Crouch
Draft- pick 12: Nathan Freeman
pick 20 Patrick Cripps
pick 36: Zac Jones

PSD#2 ... Patrick Karnezis

(Clisby & Stark remain as rookies)

delisted Demons (-8): Macdonald (ret), Sellar, Gillies, Rodan, Davey(ret), Jetta, Bail (trade), Nicho (trade)

2014 lineup
B: Zac Jones James Frawley Colin Garland
Hb: Jack Grimes Tom Mcdonald Dean Terlich/Mitch Clisby®
C: Jarryd Lyons Jack Viney Jack Trengove
Hf: Jack Watts Jesse Hogan Jeremy Howe
F: Chris Dawes Mitch Clark Colin Sylvia
FOL: Max Gawn Steele Sidebottom Nathan Jones
int Nathan Freeman, Matt Crouch, Jordie Schroder
sub: Jimmy Toumpas
emerg: Patrick Karnezis, Jordie Mckenzie, Dean Kent, Patrick Cripps, Jack Fitzpatrick,

This is a midfield supercharge...

My ideal offseason would include:

Priority pick

Mid first round

Staff

1. Mark Williams as Head Coach

2. Brett Kirk as Midfield Coach

3. Cameron Ling as a Youth Coach/Development Coach

4. Neil Craig remains in his current role and manages to make it work with Chocco

Trading

1. Jack Watts for Carlton's first round pick (9?)

2. David Myers (Essendon) for Sam Blease

3. Three-way trade (Geelong, GWS, Melbourne)

Melbourne:

Get - George Horlin-Smith + Taylor Adams

Lose - Pick 21 + Mark Jamar

GWS:

Get - Pick 16 + Mark Jamar

Lose - Taylor Adams + Sam Darley + Anthony Miles

Geelong:

Get - Pick 21 + Sam Darley + Anthony Miles

Lose - Pick 16 + George Horlin-Smith

Free Agents

1. Keep Colin Sylvia

2. Sign Daniel Cross

3. Sign Brad Sewell/Scott Thompson

4. Sign Joel Corey

Re-signings/Delistings

Re-sign

1. Rory Taggert

De-list

1. Troy Davis

2. Tom Couch

3. James Magner

4. David Rodan

5. Tom Gillies

6. Daniel Nicholson

7. James Sellar

8. Josh Tynan

9. Neville Jetta

National Draft

*Add Jesse Hogan

Pick #2 - Matt Crouch

Pick #9 - Dom Sheed

Pick #10 (Priority) - Nathan Freeman

Pick #54 - Mitch Clisby (Rookie Elevation)

Pre-season Draft

Pick #2 - Dustin Martin (Convince him to go into (Luke Ball style), and give him a huge contract)

Rookie Draft

Pick #2 - Jake Best

Pick #19 - Nathan Gordon

Pick #36 - Kory Beard/Michael Coad

Pick #53 - Chris Cain

Player list

Tall Defenders: James Frawley, Tom McDonald, Colin Garland, Cam Pedersen, Kory Beard/Michael Coad

Small Defenders: James Strauss, Jack Grimes, Dean Terlich, Mitch Clisby

Tall Forwards: Mitch Clark, Chris Dawes, Jesse Hogan

Small Forwards: Jeremy Howe, Jake Best, Luke Tapscott, Shannon Byrnes

Tall Utilities: Lynden Dunn, Jack Fitzpatrick

Small Utilities: Colin Sylvia, Dean Kent, Rory Taggert, Taylor Adams, Dustin Martin

Outside Midfielders: Jimmy Toumpas, Jack Trengove, Dom Barry, Michael Evans, Matt Jones, Rohan Bail

Inside Midfielders: Nathan Jones, Jack Viney, Brad Sewell/Scott Thompson, Daniel Cross, Joel Corey, Nathan Freeman, Matt Crouch, Nathan Gordon, Dom Sheed, David Myers, Chris Cain, George Horlin-Smith

Rucks: Max Gawn, Jake Spencer

Taggers: Jordie McKenzie

Best 22

B: Colin Garland, James Frawley, Dean Terlich

HB: David Myers, Tom McDonald, Jack Grimes

C: Jimmy Toumpas, Jack Viney, Dustin Martin

HF: Colin Sylvia, Chris Dawes, Taylor Adams

F: Mitch Clark, Jesse Hogan, Jeremy Howe

R: Max Gawn, Brad Sewell/Scott Thompson, Nathan Jones

I: Daniel Cross, George Horlin-Smith, Joel Corey

Sub: Dean Kent/Draftee

EMER: Jake Spencer, Jack Fitzpatrick, Michael Evans

*Note: Let the Draftees DEVELOP in the VFL and/or EARN a call up to AFL level.

PP number 5

picks 2, 5, 11, 39, 57, 75

Jack watts to Carlton - pick 11

sam blease to North- Levi Greenwood

Mark Jamar and pick 21 to GWS- Taylor Adams

Free Agents:

Paul Chapman 2 years

Brad Sewell- 3 years

Draft

2: James Aish

5: Dom Sheed

11: Matt Crouch

39: Zac Jones

57: Upgrade Clisby

75: Pass

Delist: Couch, Magner, Sellar, Rodan, Jetta, Tynan, Davis, Nicholson,

Rookies: Jake best & Cory lambert

Delisted free agent: Anthony Miles

B: Zac Jones James Frawley jack Grimes

hb: Colin Garland Tom mcdonald jimmy toumpas

c: James Aish Jack Viney Jack Trengove

hf: Colin Sylvia Chris Dawes Paul Chapman

F: Jeremy howe Mitch Clark Jesse Hogan

fol: Max Gawn Nathan Jones Brad sewell

int: Dom Sheed Taylor Adams Matt Crouch

sub: dean kent

emg: Barry, Greenwood, Miles

An ideal off season would be where no one tells us the boys are training the house down.

Can we be more "realistic" ...

Can we be more "realistic" ...

Yeah, I am getting sick of it too.

Some of these Dreams are doing too much Weaving...

OUTS (10 PL, 2 RL):

Deletions (7 PL, 2 RL): Jetta, Davis, Rodan, Gillies, Davey, MacDonald, Sellar, Couch ®, Magner ®

Trades (2 PL) : Nicholson for ND60, Watts for ND15 (picks are approximates)

FA Loss (1 PL): Sylvia for ND21 as Band 3 Compensation (the same as Port got for each of Pearce and Chaplin)

INS (10 PL, 2 RL):

Hogan

ND (5 PL): Pick 2, 15, 20, 21, 61

PSD (1 PL): Young mid with high workrate, maybe a fringe player

FA Gain (0 PL): N/A (if we wish to keep Pick 21 we will have to abstain from signing a FA)

Trades (2 PL): Pick 60 for Scott Thompson (RFA), Pick 40 for Brad Sewell

Delisted FA (1 PL): Solid midfield pro with a few years left

RD (2 RL): Two teenage mids with hardness and potential

So if Watts and Sylvia leave we should look at getting a name mid to come to the club but I don't see it happening (if they don't leave just remove Picks 15 and 21 respectively). Coaxing an Adams into the PSD is possible but not probable. Having Pick 2 and a further 3 picks in the top 21 may have to be spent on youth if no trades open up. I don't want to give up those picks unless a high calibre player comes back our way. If we could get Sloane for Picks 15 and 20 I would do that in a heartbeat. I just cannot see us being that attractive this offseason...

Thompson and Sewell are far from easy gets but if you can get them to buy into their roles as Culture Changers at a club that needs leadership then I would try hard to bring them in.

Headline: A couple steps back to go forward...if you pick the right players.

Yeah, I am getting sick of it too.

Some of these Dreams are doing too much Weaving...

OUTS (10 PL, 2 RL):

Deletions (7 PL, 2 RL): Jetta, Davis, Rodan, Gillies, Davey, MacDonald, Sellar, Couch ®, Magner ®

Trades (2 PL) : Nicholson for ND60, Watts for ND15 (picks are approximates)

FA Loss (1 PL): Sylvia for ND21 as Band 3 Compensation (the same as Port got for each of Pearce and Chaplin)

INS (10 PL, 2 RL):

Hogan

ND (5 PL): Pick 2, 15, 20, 21, 61

PSD (1 PL): Young mid with high workrate, maybe a fringe player

FA Gain (0 PL): N/A (if we wish to keep Pick 21 we will have to abstain from signing a FA)

Trades (2 PL): Pick 60 for Scott Thompson (RFA), Pick 40 for Brad Sewell

Delisted FA (1 PL): Solid midfield pro with a few years left

RD (2 RL): Two teenage mids with hardness and potential

So if Watts and Sylvia leave we should look at getting a name mid to come to the club but I don't see it happening (if they don't leave just remove Picks 15 and 21 respectively). Coaxing an Adams into the PSD is possible but not probable. Having Pick 2 and a further 3 picks in the top 21 may have to be spent on youth if no trades open up. I don't want to give up those picks unless a high calibre player comes back our way. If we could get Sloane for Picks 15 and 20 I would do that in a heartbeat. I just cannot see us being that attractive this offseason...

Thompson and Sewell are far from easy gets but if you can get them to buy into their roles as Culture Changers at a club that needs leadership then I would try hard to bring them in.

Headline: A couple steps back to go forward...if you pick the right players.

So you want people to be realistic and you think we get Sloane for pick 15 and Thompson who screwed us 8 yrs ago and Sewell and pick 21 For Sylvia, that's not going to happen.

So you want people to be realistic and you think we get Sloane for pick 15 and Thompson who screwed us 8 yrs ago and Sewell and pick 21 For Sylvia, that's not going to happen.

I said Pick 15 and Pick 20 for Sloane and I also didn't include it because it was unlikely. So you might want to rethink that criticism...

And Thompson didn't 'screw us' - he wanted to go home as a family member was ill. The ability to get him and Sewell will predicated on who the new coach is and how much they wish to be a part of rebuild - not an easy sell as I said.

Sylvia for Band 3 Compensation is the same as Pearce and Chaplin EACH got for PA last season.

I would be surprised if we didn't get a pick after our 2nd Round Pick.

I am not pulling things out of my rear end, mjt. I read the rules and look at precedence:

The free agency system has five ''bands'' of compensation. The highest-ranked players will bring a return of a first-round pick; the next level is an end-of-first-round pick; the third category is a second-round choice; the fourth is an end-of-second-round pick, and the last bracket is a third-round pick.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/free-agency-banking-ban-hits-top-clubs-20120822-24mtt.html#ixzz2d38oagJT

Can we be more "realistic" ...

In our defence, it does say 'ideal' (One's concept of perfection) off-season... But I do get your point.