Well played G Lyon...Keep going...

More details please wyl

Would love to be a fly on the wall during the ad break...

Was pretty soft really.

He was angry, but needed to go at her and call her integrity into question.

Notice towards the end there, she stated that she hadn't gone soft on MFC and wore it like a badge of pride.

Sad.

so caro reckons its not going to the commission, but reckons people will be charged.

if people are charged they will have to answer at the commission.

i think she is suffering from the dunning-kruger effect.

I turned on at the bit where Garry wasn't saying anything substantial to Caro / what have I missed?

Well that was all ahhh slightly positive I thought. Waiting for something else to go wrong

Giving Caro a good hammering over Mclardy's statement...She knows little imo, but is not backing down.

Garry stuck up well for us.

More details please wyl

Essentially, all you need to know is that Caro made a buffoon of herself, and while digging herself a large hole, used the old wrestling tag team hand slap to squirm away by questioning Lyon's credibility.

"im reading here that youre just plain wrong" (reading mcclardys statement)

"well im not wrong"

uhhh

Kero actually let it slip that she was told the "unofficial" defence stuff came from a BOARD member (along with "everybody else" in the club)

Strangely she didn't clarify if it was a current or previous board member

Hard to believe a current board member would even talk to her

She also said at one stage "do you want me to name names" and AMAZINGLY not one panellist said yes

She is such a weasel

Garry got too heated and emotional and couldn't nail her. I understood the point he was trying to make as caro flip flopped about the MFC defence. - what nonsense - we have an official and unofficial defence.......plllleeeaassseeee.

He did call her out on the players being questioned about them fumbling and her response........ She didn't know that they were accused of that.....

She is extremely clever... Garry didnt land a telling blow on her.

Edited February 14, 201312 yr by nutbean

Kero actually let it slip that she was told the "unofficial" defence stuff came from a BOARD member (along with "everybody else" in the club)

Strangely she didn't clarify if it was a current or previous board member

Hard to believe a current board member would even talk to her

She also said at one stage "do you want me to name names" and AMAZINGLY not one panellist said yes

She is such a weasel

a little misinformation goes a long way.

so caro reckons its not going to the commission, but reckons people will be charged.

if people are charged they will have to answer at the commission.

i think she is suffering from the dunning-kruger effect

.... or dumbing-kreuzer effect.

free pizza & drinks down Lygon street for a lifetime.

Gary should have fly kicked her off the chair

Giving Caro a good hammering over Mclardy's statement...She knows little imo, but is not backing down.

Garry stuck up well for us.

Good to hear. Thanks for the update.

Edited February 14, 201312 yr by DemonOX

.... or dumbing-kreuzer effect.

free pizza & drinks down Lygon street for a lifetime.

dee-luded. wikipedia the dunning-kruger effect. reflect on a lot of the people you know (or the people who drive cars). be afraid.

Edited February 14, 201312 yr by biggestred

Word on Demonology is that Bails has not been charged with anything...

Nah.. The reference is to sandersons opinion on afl.com that bailey won't get charged. Opinion nothing more

Essentially, all you need to know is that Caro made a buffoon of herself, and while digging herself a large hole, used the old wrestling tag team hand slap to squirm away by questioning Lyon's credibility.

Cheers pantaloons..

Word on Demonology is that Bails has not been charged with anything...

Here's the article, and I wouldn't say it's definite yet, not from what Sanderson says.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sanderson-confident-bailey-will-be-cleared-of-tanking-20130214-2ef7s.html

Edited February 14, 201312 yr by Lost Highway

I know about Sanderson's comments, but the poster on 'ology goes a bit further..."his (Bailey's) response to the AFL has been accepted."

Kero says Cuddles will get a suspended suspension - hahaha what a cracker of intelligent rubbish

has no effing idea

I turned on at the bit where Garry wasn't saying anything substantial to Caro / what have I missed?

Light on for content.

Gary questioned her quoting MFC's "unofficial defense" and she rambled an answer about it being from supporters she had spoken to, then tried to switch that to bein people involved in the club, and then board members.

A bit of theatre involved, where she asked if he wanted her to name names, and Lyon moved on like be didn't hear her.

She got defensive, crossed her arms, questioned Lyon's integrity in commenting on the issue, he got very angry and focused on his own integrity and the argument pretty quickly lost steam.

For the record, here's a summary of what Caro said:

* Continued to deny that anyone in the media had suggested Melbourne players didn't try. Garry corrected her and said that fumblegate was in fact reported in the papers, to which she said that no one in the media has suggested that. Error.

* said that Don McLardy "didn't address the issue" in yesterday's letter.

* Classic line: "I know what Melbourne's official defence is, or largely...I've got an impression of what it is, and it is a very clever and well paid and well advised and smart legal defence based around the definition of manipulation and tanking". Not what sort of response she wanted from us.

* said that Melbourne's unofficial defence revolves around the five things DM refuted. Garry suggested this was water cooler talk. She said she was addressing what Melbourne board members were saying.

Garry referred to her DM's quote that she was plain wrong, to which she started questioning his credibility in what could only be described as a childish, pathetic and disgusting manner.

The CW opinion in the end was:

- AA was process driven, by the book

- GM is a deal maker

Therefore, this won't go to the commission, GM will make a deal & this will quickly get sorted and go away.

dee-luded. wikipedia the dunning-kruger effect. reflect on a lot of the people you know (or the people who drive cars). be afraid.

that was interesting, & I reflected on both, but mainly the second part.