And what we are prepared to accept.

Actually, that's not right.

He's worth what the market is prepared to pay, whether you accept it or not is your choice.

Yet we may determine that he is worth more (or less) than the market is prepared to pay.

"who everyone agrees has talent and is still young......Gysberts would have to be somewhere between 15 and 30 given he is contracted and has tons of upside. "

Opinion - everyone's got one.

"... who every one agrees hasn't lived up to his potential, is slow, unfit and weak and whose value has eroded similar to Sellars."

The only fact in there is that Sellar went for 14 then 54. That's the information to draw a parallel with.

Yet we may determine that he is worth more (or less) than the market is prepared to pay.

He's worth what the market is prepared to pay, whether you accept it or not is your choice.

He's worth what the market is prepared to pay, whether you accept it or not is your choice.

You would argue with your shadow. You clearly dont understand the mechanics of modern day trading.

Sydney invented it, Hawthorn understand it, Collingwood understand it, Geelong understand it, Richmond understand it , we now understand it , OMG even Essendon now understand it - many other teams understand it

You clearly dont.

You have said, repeatedly, that you've put B-H on ignore yet you keep replying to him.

It's also funny because he has put you on ignore, so he won't see it.

Please stop posting. You make this forum a worse place.

He's worth what the market is prepared to pay, whether you accept it or not is your choice.

Yeah, I get this. Teams lowballing us and offering below what they perceive his actual worth to be, in fact determine his worth.

We're talking the difference between value and worth.

Yeah, I get this. Teams lowballing us and offering below what they perceive his actual worth to be, in fact determine his worth.

We're talking the difference between value and worth.

Yes, the market determines worth. And a player's worth can change from year to year; it isn't static.

A classic case is the Saints and Luke Ball. Ball didn't feel part of Ross Lyon's future plans and decided he wanted out. It's hard to know what the Saints would have got on an open market, but they were dealing in a restricted market, because Ball wanted to go to Collingwood.

After haggling the Pies offered pick 25 and Wellingham for Ball. Lyon scoffed and ultimately the Saints got nothing. Ironically Ball was pivotal in Collingwood beating them in the GF a year later. At the time, in that market, that's what Ball was worth. It was the Saints right not to accept.

Wellingham has gone on to play some good footy and I won't look at all players that were available at or after pick 25, but if we just focus on the Cats they picked up Mitch Duncan, Christensen and Nathan Vardy.

Do you think Wellingham and any one of those 3 would get a game at the Saints ? Do you think they'd be better than nothing ?

Some Saints fans hate 'Rossy'.

They could do with a dose of perspective though.

He might have made a grave error in dealing with one particular player and walked out on them at an inopportune moment, but that turned out best for both parties (I think) and he took the saints to 2 GFs, and within a kick of winning one.

Why is thread after thread hijacked by the same morons time after time?

Seriously take your personal gripes elsewhere gents and ladies you are a complete and utter bore!

I completely agree Toast.

I am sick of opening up these threads, hoping for some new knowledge or rumours... But no.

Its always the same douchebags paying out on each other.

I completely agree Toast.

I am sick of opening up these threads, hoping for some new knowledge or rumours... But no.

Its always the same douchebags paying out on each other.

Damn! I opened this thread hoping there would be some news about Pedersen but only found posts airing gripes (joke joyce, i too get a little weary of the back and forth between posters sometimes, particularly when it involves trades and long complex equations, you know the sort - we give up a partridge in a pear tree, pick 37, a pettard to club a on on sell the partridge and the pick to club c and in return we get Viney second round, Toy and a case of little creatures)

Why is thread after thread hijacked by the same morons time after time?

Seriously take your personal gripes elsewhere gents and ladies you are a complete and utter bore!

All the obsessive & superior minded attitudes after the lure.

All the obsessive & superior minded attitudes after the lure.

According to the HUN online today, Pederson is likely to go to the filth.

Collingwoods supposedly looking at a few different big men including Lynch and Pederson they surely cannot afford too many without giving away something else with their tight cap. A few more hours... then let the games begin..

let them stock up with talls and well have wellingham and dawes...

According to the HUN online today, Pederson is likely to go to the filth.

If Collingwood can pay Cloke a huge amount, sign up all their out of contract players and recruit all those who are said to be going there then I would have to compliment them on their astute handling of the salary cap. Ha ha! Talk about the fishes and the loaves!

SEN this morning seemed to think he was a good chance to be a demon next year.

I think for the next couple of weeks journalists are just throwing darts at a board and reporting where it lands.

If Collingwood can pay Cloke a huge amount, sign up all their out of contract players and recruit all those who are said to be going there then I would have to compliment them on their astute handling of the salary cap. Ha ha! Talk about the fishes and the loaves!

Maybe AFL need to investigate. Funny how the wheel turns Eddie. Show us ya books!!

Is there a Free Agent not linked with Melbourne?

Is there a Free Agent not linked with Melbourne?

Brent Moloney

Brent Moloney

Reminds me if a great Daily Maggot article recently linking Brett Ratten with the Carlton coaching job.

It is with Pedersen that my interest lies at the moment. Other possible targets can come and go but for me this guy reeks of a player starved of opportunities (not to compare him as a player, but the opportunities given to Gunston this year might possibly serve as a guide). He would play a defined role, is in our age bracket and could also come at a bargain price allowing us room in the salary cap to chase bigger fish next year while filling a hole in our forward line.

I was happy to read Nudge's positive comments earlier an will be happier if we can bag this bloke next week.

With what appears to be Collingwood snaring Lynch as a FA, i rekon that this gives Melbourne the opportunity to grab pederson. From the limited number of games he played, he showed glimpses of being able to play at AFL. Hopefully he can fill the role of providing a second ready made lead up forward helping clark out. Might also provide help for development of a fitzy or martin who can even play as a third tall in our forward line. I hope melbourne signs him, can see him being a role-player and even contribute to our forward line structure

With what appears to be Collingwood snaring Lynch as a FA, i rekon that this gives Melbourne the opportunity to grab pederson. From the limited number of games he played, he showed glimpses of being able to play at AFL. Hopefully he can fill the role of providing a second ready made lead up forward helping clark out. Might also provide help for development of a fitzy or martin who can even play as a third tall in our forward line. I hope melbourne signs him, can see him being a role-player and even contribute to our forward line structure

Why would Collingwood want Lynch? Would they play Cloke. Dawes & Lynch at the same time? I would think not. Will they get rid of Dawes if they get Lynch?Something NQR regarding this.