This year hurt. The following should never wear the red and blue again.

Rohan Bail

Clint Bartram

Matthew Bate

Aaron Davey

Lynden Dunn

Joel MacDonald

Brad Green - A year too early, but decision is already made; thanks for the memories Greeny!

Brent Moloney

Cale Morton

Ricky Petterd

Jake Spencer

Lucky to escape - Colin Garland.

+ anyone else the club deems to be toxic

I understand some have contracts... trade them for dim sims

Richmond delisted 13 a few years ago from memory? Be bold Dees, I don't know how much more I can take!

yep we have to cut many, no room for sentiment.

I was going to post in detail, but then I realsed you left off two of the first to go: Bennell and Jetta. The general thrust of your thread is right though - there needs to be a great many list changes.

I don't entirely agree with the names on you list, but the sentiment I think is good. Also, I think you will be happy with the result when draft time comes around. I said earlier this year that we would see a cull at the end of the season, and all indications are that this will happen. Activating both compensation picks is just one more sign that we are planning on hitting the draft and trade period hard and turning over a lot of players. I think I said at the time that we would see 8 players gone. It could wind up being more, depending on the club's perception of draft depth.

me too

I was going to post in detail, but then I realsed you left off two of the first to go: Bennell and Jetta. The general thrust of your thread is right though - there needs to be a great many list changes.

Felt sorry for Bennell with his knee. that's all lol.

And i like Nev, even though he's destined to prove me wrong.

Add them both to the list!

Felt sorry for Bennell with his knee. that's all lol.

And i like Nev, even though he's destined to prove me wrong.

Add them both to the list!

I can't see Nev going. I could be wrong, but I've always thought Neeld would love him. He does need to improve though.

Felt sorry for Bennell with his knee. that's all lol.

And i like Nev, even though he's destined to prove me wrong.

Add them both to the list!

Once Bennell's knee exploded I think that pretty much erased any remaining doubt about what to do with him. And Jetta just doesn't do anywhere near enough to earn another contract if we are a fair dinkum football club. Doesn't have any particularly standout attribute and doesn't get enough of the ball at all.

Once Bennell's knee exploded I think that pretty much erased any remaining doubt about what to do with him. And Jetta just doesn't do anywhere near enough to earn another contract if we are a fair dinkum football club. Doesn't have any particularly standout attribute and doesn't get enough of the ball at all.

Yeah, I like his tackling which I guess is the thing you're good at if you can't get the ball

I think Bail will stay.

No room to be shy. We are what we are right now.

out of that list i rekon bail, dunn, moloney, petterd, morton and pencil should be kept at least as depth players. I still rekon moloney should be given another chance... if he can trim down even further and improve his fitness i think he could still be very valuable to the dees.

We have around 6 AFL standard players in the team with another 6 or so promising juniors.

The rest of the list is kidding itself.

This year hurt. The following should never wear the red and blue again.

Rohan Bail

Clint Bartram

Matthew Bate

Aaron Davey

Lynden Dunn

Joel MacDonald

Brad Green - A year too early, but decision is already made; thanks for the memories Greeny!

Brent Moloney

Cale Morton

Ricky Petterd

Jake Spencer

Lucky to escape - Colin Garland.

+ anyone else the club deems to be toxic

I understand some have contracts... trade them for dim sims

Richmond delisted 13 a few years ago from memory? Be bold Dees, I don't know how much more I can take!

I think Bail, MacDonald and Spencer will still be there next year and maybe Dunn. I doubt Bennell will though.

This year hurt. The following should never wear the red and blue again.

Rohan Bail

Clint Bartram

Matthew Bate

Aaron Davey

Lynden Dunn

Joel MacDonald

Brad Green - A year too early, but decision is already made; thanks for the memories Greeny!

Brent Moloney

Cale Morton

Ricky Petterd

Jake Spencer

Lucky to escape - Colin Garland.

+ anyone else the club deems to be toxic

I understand some have contracts... trade them for dim sims

Richmond delisted 13 a few years ago from memory? Be bold Dees, I don't know how much more I can take!

Yep happy with this entire list with the addition of Bennell & Magner who I've never liked as a player... but maybe we should give Barts a chance with his knee first.

Jetta gets one more year.

Watts gets one only more year too as far as I'm concerned. If he doesn't sharply improve I can no longer defend him, my credibility is already being ridiculed.

I'm almost certain Jordan gysberts will be on the trade table.....

Dunn is a keeper for now. He has pace and perform a role.

Can't see the club abandoning Bartram given his injury situation

Lynden Dunn MAY just squeeze into a new contract

Jake Spencer is a "competitive beast" (in the words of Nathan Jones) and will not be delisted

The rest are out of here faster than a Barry Bonds home run.

I'm almost certain Jordan gysberts will be on the trade table.....

Dunn is a keeper for now. He has pace and perform a role.

Geelong with Riv.

Geelong with Riv.

Riv as well? What do you expect to be getting for them? I think that would be quite a hard trade to put a value on.

Robbie when you said in the other thread that we had found some managers not even interested in talking to us about certain players - any ideas which players??

Robbie when you said in the other thread that we had found some managers not even interested in talking to us about certain players - any ideas which players??

No idea of the players.

Riv as well? What do you expect to be getting for them? I think that would be quite a hard trade to put a value on.

Isn't Riv a FA or RFA?

Not much, is the answer.

Felt sorry for Bennell with his knee. that's all lol.

And i like Nev, even though he's destined to prove me wrong.

Add them both to the list!

Jeez felt sorry for Bennell but not Bartram? Clint has twice the desire of Jamie and our best small defender. I reckon we might keep him on out of the off chance his hail Mary surgery comes off.

Otherwise I'd agree with most of your choices and idea, we need to cut ties with the last 5 years.

I'm almost certain Jordan gysberts will be on the trade table.....

Dunn is a keeper for now. He has pace and perform a role.

If Gysberts does go then that's a really sad story, such a high pick, especially since he was what we got for McLean (who has been dominating). The fact that Neeld has only given him one game this season is a disgrace, considering some of his form in the previous two seasons, yet it probably proves what he thinks of him and means he will leave

Ruthless =

delistings - Jamie Bennell, Matthew Bate, Aaron Davey, Neville Jetta, Troy Davis, Cale Morton, Lucas Cook, Ricky Petterd & Jake Spencer

(Brad Green retired).

That's 10 off the list.

Brent Moloney, Lynden Dunn, Joel Mcdonald all survive.