THE CONTRACTS THREAD [with updates]

[Guest José Mourinho]

Reckon Bennell will stay, but Bartram to go.

[Devo 104]

Do we think that Magner will be upgraded alongside Nicho and Evans, or would he have another year on the rookie list? He'd be stiff to miss out

[demon-4-life 467]

I'm more concerned about Strauss and where his contract is at.

[Guest Hulkamania]

Do we think that Magner will be upgraded alongside Nicho and Evans, or would he have another year on the rookie list? He'd be stiff to miss out

Mitsubishi will struggle to do better than be re-rookied I reckon, especially with new midfield talent on the way in. You can't fault his application, but his limitations were really on display as the season wore on.

[Guest Hulkamania]

I'm more concerned about Strauss and where his contract is at.

Strauss is a must keep for me. Has shown enough glimpses to suggest he's worth perserving with.

[Theo 276]

2013

Watts, Sylvia (UFA), Davey (RFA), Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick

MFC may be thinking ahead in relations to how we will create list space next year.

With Gysberts and Morton gone the only obvious delisting next year is Davey and possibly Martin if he is not traded today. Doesn't look like a smart approach to me because they will have next to no room to move with delistings. Can't see them wanting to move on Watts, Sylvia, Grimes, Taggert, Fitzpatrick Gawn and Tynan next year.

[Adam The God 30,407]

Bartram, Bate, Bennell, Petterd, Cook and Davis will go. Nicholson, Couch and Magner to be upgraded, though I can see Couch being delisted too.

The others to consider themselves lucky: Dunn, Strauss, Bail and Jetta.

I think Neeld can see a role for Dunn as distributor from the back. Strauss is behind Dunn at the moment, which means he's on very thin ice. He may not get a contract as a result. Jetta seems to work hard, so I reckon Neeld will give him an extra two years.

[Adam The God 30,407]

Strauss is a must keep for me. Has shown enough glimpses to suggest he's worth perserving with.

How would you compare Strauss to Dunn in a similar role? I reckon they're both as soft as butter, but both beautiful kicks. Dunn has more versatility though. I reckon Strauss could be in trouble.

Edit. Spelling.

Edited October 26, 2012 by AdamFarr

[rpfc 28,768]

THE CONTRACTS THREAD

2016

Dawes

2015

Clark, Trengove, Jamar (UFA), Garland (RFA***), McKenzie, Howe, Jones (RFA), Hogan, Viney

2014

Frawley, Tapscott, McDonald, Blease, Byrnes, Barry, Pedersen

2013

Watts, Sylvia (UFA), Davey (RFA), Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick, Rodan

2012

OOC (in number order)

Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, Jurrah, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

Rookies (upgrade or delist)

Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

Rookies (1 year option)

Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

RFA

Moloney

UFA

Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

Primary List Vacancies: 2

Rookie List Vacancies: -2

IN: Viney (ND26), Hogan, Barry, Byrnes (FA), Dawes, Rodan, Pedersen

ND4, ND49, ND,53, ND70, ND73, ND74

PSD3

OUT: Green, Moloney, Jurrah, Lawrence ®, Rivers, Gysberts, Morton

*On assumption that there will be 40 on the Primary List (with Veterans List being abolished) and 6 on the Rookie List.

**On assumption Hogan is not one of the 40 for 2013.

***If in top 25% of earners at club.

Updated.

I expect us to use ALL picks up to 74 due to the fact that they were all received on deals to get the deal done. If they don't use them then they are useless and exhibit a marginal failure to trade properly.

That is not included in rookie upgrades.

So I expect to see AT LEAST 6 more deletions from the OOC list: Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar, Bate, and Dunn.

Add more if we get any delisted player or look to use PSD3.

rpfc would: Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar, Bate, and Dunn.

Use ALL picks up to 74 (because that is what I can only assume after today) and keep PSD3 open for an OOC young player from another club.

[DirtyDees DDC 187]

Updated.

I expect us to use ALL picks up to 74 due to the fact that they were all received on deals to get the deal done. If they don't use them then they are useless and exhibit a marginal failure to trade properly.

That is not included in rookie upgrades.

So I expect to see AT LEAST 6 more deletions from the OOC list: Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar, Bate, and Dunn.

Add more if we get any delisted player or look to use PSD3.

rpfc would: Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar, Bate, and Dunn.

Use ALL picks up to 74 (because that is what I can only assume after today) and keep PSD3 open for an OOC young player from another club.

Gee even after todays trades have been completed, we still have a lot of ordinary footballers on our list.

It wouldn't surprise me to see another 6 names de-listed.

[Arrow 1,257]

I'm more concerned about Strauss and where his contract is at.

He signed for 2 years

[old dee 23,871]

From your list rpfc I think the following will be delisted.

Bennell, Petterd, Cook, Jetta, Davis and Bate

The rest ?

Bartram may be rookied to see if his knees improve but he looks doubtful on the basis of his crook knees.

Spencer I think will get another season based on Martin leaving and Gawn returning from his second Knee Reco.

Sellar, Dunn and Macdonald are still usefull players and Bail because the FD seem to like him despite the fact he cannot hit the side of a barn.

Edited October 26, 2012 by old dee

[Guest Hulkamania]

From your list rpfc I think the following will be delisted.

Bennell, Petterd, Cook, Jetta, Davis and Bate

The rest ?

Bartram may be rookied to see if his knees improve but he looks doubtful on the basis of his crook knees.

Spencer I think will get another season based on Martin leaving and Gawn returning from his second Knee Reco.

Sellar, Dunn and Macdonald are still usefull players and Bail because the FD seem to like him despite the fact he cannot hit the side of a barn.

Are you absolutely certain about Bennell, OldDee? One more season perhaps to turn the ship around?

[rpfc 28,768]

Are you absolutely certain about Bennell, OldDee? One more season perhaps to turn the ship around?

Stop baiting...

As for the INs and OUTs we have improved the 22 and brought in 3 top5 talents.

We don't ahve to worry about the forward line for a decade (besides a younger small forward in a couple years) and the backline is setup.

What we need is a midfield with run and good skill.

Viney and Wines helps this but I think this area will still be a massive issue in 2013: clearance rates, uncontested possies, and skills off half back/wing.

[old dee 23,871]

Are you absolutely certain about Bennell, OldDee? One more season perhaps to turn the ship around?

No DemonWA I am not taking the bait

[Nascent 9,283]

I can see us only using pick 4, 49 and 53 + PSD 3 or 1 delisted FA. So 4 picks in total plus upgrades of both Nicholson and Evans = 6 spaces.

We currently have two. I would delist Cook, Bate, Bennell and Davis. Sign Bartram, Dunn, Petterd, MacDonald, Jetta, and Sellar to 1yr deals. Bail & Strauss I'd give 2 years. This gives them another chance to show the footy departement that they can fit into Neelds plans and that they have the dedication/commitment to get the best out of themeselves.

If they don't, then we have our candidates for next years delisties because for me at this stage, I would like the current 2013 OOC players to remain at the club beyond then (Davey debatable).

Edited October 26, 2012 by Nascent

[demon-4-life 467]

He signed for 2 years

When was this?

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

Mitsubishi will struggle to do better than be re-rookied I reckon, especially with new midfield talent on the way in. You can't fault his application, but his limitations were really on display as the season wore on.

Give him a full AFL preseason, before committing to his limitations.

[John Dee 445]

I can see us only using pick 4, 49 and 53 + PSD 3 or 1 delisted FA. So 4 picks in total plus upgrades of both Nicholson and Evans = 6 spaces.

We currently have two. I would delist Cook, Bate, Bennell and Davis. Sign Bartram, Petterd, MacDonald, Jetta, and Sellar to 1yr deals. Bail & Strauss I'd give 2 years. This gives them another chance to show the footy departement that they can fit into Neelds plans and that they have the dedication/commitment to get the best out of themeselves.

If they don't, then we have our candidates for next years delisties because for me at this stage, I would like the current 2013 OOC players to remain at the club beyond then (Davey debatable).

You forgot 27.

My count is that there are, currently, three spots, the bare minimum. I would expect a few delistings and us to use 5-6 draft picks. Of these one will definately be Viney and the other Nicholson.

BTW Hogan will not be on our list next year.

[Nascent 9,283]

You forgot 27.

My count is that there are, currently, three spots, the bare minimum. I would expect a few delistings and us to use 5-6 draft picks. Of these one will definately be Viney and the other Nicholson.

BTW Hogan will not be on our list next year.

I was using RPFC's list that already included Viney onto our list, and I am also aware Hogan will not be officially listed as a player next year.

Edit: putting a smiley face in so I don't sound like a miserable dick...

Edited October 26, 2012 by Nascent

[DemonWA 3,936]

No DemonWA I am not taking the bait

Im not Hulkamania!

[rpfc 28,768]

Im not Hulkamania!

First time you've ever typed that sentence...

[rpfc 28,768]

THE CONTRACTS THREAD

2016

Dawes

2015

Clark, Trengove, Jamar (UFA), Garland (RFA***), McKenzie, Howe, Jones (RFA), Hogan, Viney

2014

Frawley, Tapscott, McDonald, Blease, Byrnes, Barry, Pedersen

2013

Watts, Sylvia (UFA), Davey (RFA), Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick, Rodan

2012

OOC (in number order)

Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, Jurrah, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

Rookies (upgrade or delist)

Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

Rookies (1 year option)

Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

RFA

Moloney

UFA

Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

Primary List Vacancies: 6

Rookie List Vacancies: 0

IN: Viney (ND26), Hogan, Barry, Byrnes (FA), Dawes, Rodan, Pedersen

ND4, ND49, ND,53, ND70, ND73, ND74

PSD3

OUT: Green, Moloney, Jurrah, Lawrence ®, Rivers, Gysberts, Morton, Martin, Bennell, Petterd, Cook, Bate, Sheahan ®, Williams ®

*On assumption that there will be 40 on the Primary List (with Veterans List being abolished) and 6 on the Rookie List.

**On assumption Hogan is not one of the 40 for 2013.

***If in top 25% of earners at club.

Updated.

There are 6 vacancies with Evans and Nicho to come up from what I have heard from more than one source. See if that pans out soon.

If it does we will have 4 vacancies for ND4, ND49, ND53, and ND70/PSD3. ND73 and ND74 are there for more deletions/contract hold outs.

[daisycutter 29,737]

rpfc i think your assumption of 40 +6 is wrong

My reading is that it between 38 +6 and 40 + 4. In other words a total of 44 either way

My suspicion is they will go 40 + 4 and opt for more mature-agers from the state leagues rather than 6 rookies

[dee-luded 2,959]

Do we think that Magner will be upgraded alongside Nicho and Evans, or would he have another year on the rookie list? He'd be stiff to miss out

IMO with these delisting numbers, & desire for integrity & trust, I would upgrade Magner, Nicholson, maybe Evans if he's body is OK, Couch I'm not sure yet.