0-9 during his first season.

Did Damien Hardwick flinch? Did he f ...k.

This afternoon Richmond completely demolished flag fancy Hawthorn at the MCG. A massive win for that club, their supporters and their future.

Here's what Hardwick had to say recently about his counterpart Mark Neeld.

http://www.afl.com.a...39/default.aspx

"Mark knows what he's trying to do. It's just going to take time. We were in exactly the same situation when we were 0-9. You could see the pieces of the puzzle come together slowly. It does take time for a playing group to get the game plan you're trying to implement.

"Mark will be feeling flat at some stages, but he'll get there. He's very, very thorough. He'll continue on his pathway. He won't deviate from it and that's what will get the job done for him."

I'd like to hear what Rudeboy, Grand New Flag and the other 'destabilizers' have to say about this these comments and what they mean for the MFC.

Two years ago I was convinced that we had a far better list than Richmond - and Essendon - and that the future was bright.

I think it's great to try and find some positives, and I'm not a Neeld hater, but....

That is a totally different club, and a totally different coach, so as much as it's nice to know someone has been in the same situation from a win/loss point of view, it doesn't mean we are going to turn it around because they did, and to try and stick it up some other posters who disagree with you by making that connection is a bit of a stretch.

  On 26/05/2012 at 06:29, Range Rover said:

I'd like to hear what Rudeboy, Grand New Flag and the other 'destabilizers' have to say about this these comments and what they mean for the MFC.

Probably that a giant comet will strike the earth and we're all going to die.

what is the richmond gameplan by the way? (serious question!)

OK, our new master plan. No more Geelong lite or Collingwood press. Now we will copy Richmonds game.

What is this. Shall we look back in the history books to find every good news story that has started with a bad beginning?

I hope your on the right track range rover, but not sure why people need to have blind faith in neeld based on the things he says, not on what we see on game day?

Too early to tell either way

  On 26/05/2012 at 06:39, Jackie said:

OK, our new master plan. No more Geelong lite or Collingwood press. Now we will copy Richmonds game.

"Mark will be feeling flat at some stages, but he'll get there. He's very, very thorough. He'll continue on his pathway. He won't deviate from it and that's what will get the job done for him."

  On 26/05/2012 at 06:42, Range Rover said:

"Mark will be feeling flat at some stages, but he'll get there. He's very, very thorough. He'll continue on his pathway. He won't deviate from it and that's what will get the job done for him."

Your neeld crusade is looking to be 2012 version of rpfc's quest for people to show blind faith in scully....

  On 26/05/2012 at 06:42, Range Rover said:

"Mark will be feeling flat at some stages, but he'll get there. He's very, very thorough. He'll continue on his pathway. He won't deviate from it and that's what will get the job done for him."

I like that the coaches stick up for each other, and I was glad to see Spud Frawley's response to David King (and a few others) in support of Neeld, but really Dimma has no idea if Neeld will get the job done, just like the rest of us have no idea yet.

  On 26/05/2012 at 06:45, DemonWA said:

Your neeld crusade is looking to be 2012 version of rpfc's quest for people to show blind faith in scully....

You're right. Hence the nod to Rpfc with my sig.

But it's not blind faith. It's genuine belief.

I expect Neeld to come under significantly more fire over the next three weeks as we will in all likelihood get well beaten by Carl/Ess/Coll. You can see that there's a movement on here agitating for his dismissal. The Old Guard who are resisting change and don't want to put in the hard yards to change the culture of the club.

Just for you RR: 'It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt'.

Some of us in the 'New Guard' are seeking to put MFC ahead of the rest as a future leading club, not just find the latest supposedly successful club's plan and follow it!

  On 26/05/2012 at 06:39, Jackie said:

OK, our new master plan. No more Geelong lite or Collingwood press. Now we will copy Richmonds game.

Jackie you are making missing the point of a thread into an art form.

Well done again.

  On 26/05/2012 at 06:58, Hardnut said:

Just for you RR: 'It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt'.

Some of us in the 'New Guard' are seeking to put MFC ahead of the rest as a future leading club, not just find the latest supposedly successful club's plan and follow it!

Missed the point of the thread as well my fellow nutter.

  On 26/05/2012 at 06:58, Hardnut said:

Just for you RR: 'It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt'.

Some of us in the 'New Guard' are seeking to put MFC ahead of the rest as a future leading club, not just find the latest supposedly successful club's plan and follow it!

Who said anything about following what Richmond have done verbatim??

All the OP points to is that we should back our man as Richmond backed theirs. Nothing more, nothing less.

Given that is the case your quote above would seem to apply to yourself, Hardnut. Use your noggin old boy.

Hope your on the right track there RR...I just hate it that Richmond have surged past us...

I am sure our new coach will be quietly pleased at the improvement of the RFC. It says one thing. Believe in what you teach & stick to it.

  On 26/05/2012 at 07:04, why you little said:

I am sure our new coach will be quietly pleased at the improvement of the RFC. It says one thing. Believe in what you teach & stick to it.

To me it says: make sure you draft a couple of gun midfielders from the pointy end of the draft.

  On 26/05/2012 at 07:08, Dr. Mubutu said:

To me it says: make sure you draft a couple of gun midfielders from the pointy end of the draft.

That will help, no arguement there.

  On 26/05/2012 at 07:08, Dr. Mubutu said:

To me it says: make sure you draft a couple of gun midfielders from the pointy end of the draft.

Absolutely correct. We must draft the two best mids available in November. It will be D-Day for the club. Our last roll of the dice at the card table.

  On 26/05/2012 at 07:03, Range Rover said:

Who said anything about following what Richmond have done verbatim??

All the OP points to is that we should back our man as Richmond backed theirs. Nothing more, nothing less.

Given that is the case your quote above would seem to apply to yourself, Hardnut. Use your noggin old boy.

Different club, different circumstances, different coaching style, on and on and on ......

Give it a rest RR.

In any case, this thread should probably be combined with others following similar tacks.

  On 26/05/2012 at 07:29, Hardnut said:

Different club, different circumstances, different coaching style, on and on and on ......

Give it a rest RR.

In any case, this thread should probably be combined with others following similar tacks.

Just get on board Hardnut and back in your coach to succeed. It's as simple as that.

Can anyone name a coach who started 0/9 or wars and won a flag? Get a grip guys, Richmond are still in the negative for the year and won nothing yet. Talk about desperado's clutching at straws.

  On 26/05/2012 at 07:32, Jackie said:

Can anyone name a coach who started 0/9 or wars and won a flag? Get a grip guys, Richmond are still in the negative for the year and won nothing yet. Talk about desperado's clutching at straws.

Tell them they're clutching at straws.

It

  On 26/05/2012 at 07:38, Range Rover said:

Tell them they're clutching at straws.

Is this a sign of you jumping ship? Poor deluded child.