Respect.

[rpfc 27,692]

Does anyone else not care about losing the respect we had for being a middling team with no hope for winning a flag?

Because that was the extent of the 'respect' we have lost...

[rjay 24,200]

Our old hard nuts created respect - Viney, Lyon, Tingay, Stynes, Lovett, Febey/s....

Now, it's all gone.

Unfortunately they didn't, an ex premiership player from another club of that era told me that he found the Melbourne players were arrogant and for the life of him he could never understand why. They had won nothing.

Some players like Robbie Flower will be respected on an individual basis but respect for the club will only come with a premiership.

[hardtack 10,187]

Just like the players who will run out onto the SCG on Saturday, we need to have belief.

Therein lies part of the problem... just how much belief do the players really have?

I'll be there on Saturday, so I hope they find a spark (even though I have said that is probably the "kiss of death", I was at the Shanghai game when they managed to pull out an unlikely victory)...who knows, the smaller ground and the return of Jurrah (hopefully) may see them turn things around, although I have told my 10 year old to be prepared for loss :-)

[old dee 23,256]

We have to pin our hopes on something old dee, or all will be lost ........ and like rpfc, I refuse to believe that is the case. Just like the players who will run out onto the SCG on Saturday, we need to have belief.

Deeoldfart I have been suuporting the MFC since 1960, I am not about to fold my tent and disappear.

However over that 52 year period I have not seen as poor a team put on the park since the early 70's.

Right now I have almost no belief that there is anything but pain ahead of us for as far as I can see.

[old dee 23,256]

Therein lies part of the problem... just how much belief do the players really have?

I'll be there on Saturday, so I hope they find a spark (even though I have said that is probably the "kiss of death", I was at the Shanghai game when they managed to pull out an unlikely victory)...who knows, the smaller ground and the return of Jurrah (hopefully) may see them turn things around, although I have told my 10 year old to be prepared for loss :-)

Hardtack the game is only available on Foxtel down here and as I have commitments Saturday afternoon I will not see it.

I look forward to your thoughts as I always think you get a much better feel when you are at a game.

I really hope they make a game of it as the fate of a future supporter is hanging in the balance.

[old dee 23,256]

We have been through quite a bit as a club, OD.

I refuse to believe that with all we have now - we are at our lowest ebb.

My wife made the following statement a couple of days ago rpfc I think she is on the money.

" without that web site you would have tossed in the Dees by now"

On reflection she is partly correct.

I will probably keep paying my membership till the MFC folds or I do which ever comes first.

But the contact and banter on Demonland has kept me going to games etc the last few years.

[Sir Why You Little 35,322]

Just remember Mark Neeld has a 3 year contract. Things will change fast, the result is not yet known.

[Sir Why You Little 35,322]

My wife made the following statement a couple of days ago rpfc I think she is on the money.

" without that web site you would have tossed in the Dees by now"

On reflection she is partly correct.

I will probably keep paying my membership till the MFC folds or I do which ever comes first.

But the contact and banter on Demonland has kept me going to games etc the last few years.

FIRE UP OLD DEE!!!

"Medics we could be losing him..."

[old dee 23,256]

FIRE UP OLD DEE!!!

"Medics we could be losing him..."

No you are not wyl

It is just very difficult to remain up after the last 11 months of rubbish.

[Sir Why You Little 35,322]

No you are not wyl

It is just very difficult to remain up after the last 11 months of rubbish.

I am with you man. How our list can have the same pay scale as a Hawthorn or Geelong astounds me.

Value for $$$?? I think not. Mitch Clark & J Mckenzie excused.

[old dee 23,256]

I am with you man. How our list can have the same pay scale as a Hawthorn or Geelong astounds me.

Value for $$$?? I think not. Mitch Clark & J Mckenzie excused.

Add Jones and Frawley

[Fork 'em 6,630]

I'll throw in Magner.

He's on the cheap anyhoo.

[Sir Why You Little 35,322]

Add Jones and Frawley

Yes fair call. It is hard being lone soldiers.

[old dee 23,256]

I'll throw in Magner.

He's on the cheap anyhoo.

I like the "pressure" comment on the bottom Fork em

[Sir Why You Little 35,322]

I'll throw in Magner.

He's on the cheap anyhoo.

A keep.

[Jaded No More 60,146]

I have no respect for the team right now, so why should anyone else?

[old dee 23,256]

I have no respect for the team right now, so why should anyone else?

A small modification Jaded

" most of the team" right now

[hardtack 10,187]

I really hope they make a game of it as the fate of a future supporter is hanging in the balance.

Hey, how did you know?... get out of my head!!

[old dee 23,256]

Hey, how did you know?... get out of my head!!

Nothing that clever hardtack you have made a few comments about your son.

From a similar problem with my daughter 25 years ago I can see a repeat in the making.

I lost her mate I hope you have better luck.

[hardtack 10,187]

Nothing that clever hardtack you have made a few comments about your son.

From a similar problem with my daughter 25 years ago I can see a repeat in the making.

I lost her mate I hope you have better luck.

Ah yes... I am hopeful he will stick it out... he is a Jurrah fan, so as long as he gets a game, I think that will be enough to satisfy him (well, I hope so , at least).

[Deeoldfart 7,863]

Therein lies part of the problem... just how much belief do the players really have?

I agree totally hardtack, this is one of the key questions. How much belief do our players have in themselves (?); in their team mates (?); in our game plan (?); in our current direction as a footy team (?0); in the coaching staff (?); etc. I don't know the answer to any of these questions, but judging from where I sit, my guess is that at least some of these intangibles are missing ......... and it goes without saying that until we have 'total belief' we will not have the success that we crave. Fortunately, I think that belief can be established fairly quicklly (but definitely not overnight).

[hardtack 10,187]

Fortunately, I think that belief can be established fairly quicklly (but definitely not overnight).

If they can string together some wins against quality established opposition (that is, not GC or GWS), then I think their belief will start to surface quite rapidly... as they say, it is a confidence game.

Edit: and I hope the first of those wins is on Saturday - for purely selfish reasons, of course :-)

Edited May 17, 2012 by hardtack

[old dee 23,256]

If they can string together some wins against quality established opposition (that is, not GC or GWS), then I think their belief will start to surface quite rapidly... as they say, it is a confidence game.

hardtack in our current position I think wins against anyone would help.

[Deeoldfart 7,863]

Deeoldfart I have been suuporting the MFC since 1960, I am not about to fold my tent and disappear.

However over that 52 year period I have not seen as poor a team put on the park since the early 70's.

Right now I have almost no belief that there is anything but pain ahead of us for as far as I can see.

I'm glad that you're not going to fold your tent and disappear old dee ..... you are too valuable around here for that. And I'm also glad that you have "almost no belief", because that statement suggests that you still have a glimmer of belief remaining ...... and from small things ..................!!

[old dee 23,256]

I'm glad that you're not going to fold your tent and disappear old dee ..... you are too valuable around here for that. And I'm also glad that you have "almost no belief", because that statement suggests that you still have a glimmer of belief remaining ...... and from small things ..................!!

I hope that small ember does not get extingished on June 24!