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Redleg
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20 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Do they still have the annual majong championships on there?

At Buller i take it...no idea these days. Rarely ski the place.

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    In the worst MRO/Tribunal Decision in ages,  Toby Greene, arguably the Giant's best remaining player, is banned from the Preliminary Final against the Pies, by MRO Officer Michael Christian, a former Premiership player with the Pies and then the Tribunal consisting of 2 former Pies players in Shane Wakelin and Paul Williams.

    Yes Justice has to be seen to be done, as well as done.

    The decision has been panned by everyone in football other than Pies fans.

    Clearly the whole football world has got this one wrong.

    Oh and by the way, the "you have to hurt the victim" rule, just flew out the window. 

    Leading ex players and footy media are calling it an absolute disgrace.

    Could you imagine it happening the other way round, to say Pendlebury?

     

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    4 hours ago, Redleg said:

    In the worst MRO/Tribunal Decision in ages,  Toby Greene, arguably the Giant's best remaining player, is banned from the Preliminary Final against the Pies, by MRO Officer Michael Christian, a former Premiership player with the Pies and then the Tribunal consisting of 2 former Pies players in Shane Wakelin and Paul Williams.

    Yes Justice has to be seen to be done, as well as done.

    The decision has been panned by everyone in football other than Pies fans.

    Clearly the whole football world has got this one wrong.

    Oh and by the way, the "you have to hurt the victim" rule, just flew out the window. 

    Leading ex players and footy media are calling it an absolute disgrace.

    Could you imagine it happening the other way round, to say Pendlebury?

     

    I couldn’t imagine Pendlebury doing such an act. 

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    Meanwhile....Banana's been banned in Bali...

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/tourists-to-be-hit-with-bali-bonk-ban/news-story/328dab4f0d9157d8a9325593dff3b850?utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_medium=Twitter

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    2 hours ago, Neil Crompton said:

    I couldn’t imagine Pendlebury doing such an act. 

    What, rubbing his hand over a player's forehead in a pack?  Everybody agrees there was no eye gouge.

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    From the AFL site:

    McLachlan said match review officer Michael Christian, a former Collingwood premiership player, had done a "great job" in assessing incidents this season.

    The Giants are seething at Greene's one-match suspension being upheld by the AFL appeals board on Thursday night. GWS chief executive David Matthews says he now has little confidence in the tribunal process, while Greene's manager Paul Connors has lashed the system.

     

    Connors sat next to Greene throughout the two-hour appeals board hearing on Thursday night.

    "He's gutted. It's a preliminary final we're talking about, this is big and if this was a Collingwood player, there would be uproar," Connors told Sportsday.

    "In over 20 years of management, I've never seen a worse decision.

    "You can have your opinions on Toby, but on the facts of the facts, this is a disgrace.

    "If this was any other player, especially if he was at Collingwood, I don't think we'd be hearing the last of it."

    Greene has now been suspended for seven games across his 144-game career and racked up more than $26,000 in fines.

    Matthews on Friday noted Christian had played in a premiership for Collingwood.

    "And it feels like we've been playing Collingwood all week," Matthews told Macquarie Radio.

     

     

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    From the AGE:

    "The AFL will not fine Matthews, Bartel or Connors for their heavily critical comments of the MRO and tribunal process."

     

    You know why not, because they want it to go away.

    Here is part of Ronny Lerner's Age Article today:

     

    But Matthews told Macquarie Sports Radio on Friday morning it felt like the Giants had already been playing Collingwood all week after 1990 premiership player Michael Christian first laid the charge in his capacity as match review officer while former Magpies Shane Wakelin and Paul Williams sat on the tribunal on Tuesday night.

    Greene’s appeal was dismissed on Thursday night, prompting Matthews to declare “the system has failed” Greene who got suspended despite the absence of “a shred of evidence”.

    “We’re a little bit disappointed in the fact that not once but twice Lachie Neale’s testimony or evidence was discredited and this is probably a bloke who’s at worst going to be on the podium for the Brownlow on Monday night for the best-and-fairest player.

     

    “His evidence they washed their hands of it, [Brisbane Lions coach] Chris Fagan’s evidence [was] thrown out the door, Brisbane Lions doctor thrown out the door, the footage of Lachie Neale rubbing his nose thrown out the door.

    “You have three very well-respected people ... it just felt like it was pre-determined all week the result and that’s what we have to deal with. I think it’s a bit of Toby Greene factor, I think we all take that into account.”

     

    Matthews also went on SEN on Friday and said: “It seems to me that the only issues with [Neale’s] eye region are the people who laid the charge in the first place.

    “If you consider the facts of the case and put aside the emotion that seems to surround Toby Greene, and others in the competition from time to time, the facts of the case didn’t support the charge.

    “It’s a very, very disappointing outcome and I can’t be any clearer on this - the system has failed Toby Greene this week."

    Matthews said Greene’s long rap sheet should have had nothing to do with this case and that he was entitled to have his circumstances fairly assessed in isolation.

    “This whole week I’ve watched the media put up his rap sheet, most of which are parking fines – engaging in melees and whatever else,” he said.

     

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    How can it be allowed for a Premiership player of a club, to officiate in an incident, where a player of his club, or the club they are playing are concerned. Not only Christian who rubs Greene out, but 2 out of the 3 Tribunal members were past Pies players.

    This is a disgrace. Another AFL one.

    Justice has to be seen to be done.

    Oh and by the way, Christian who was all about the injury caused to the victim,  in rubbing out players, totally ignored in this incident that there was no injury or severe action in the incident as stated by the victim Neale, the club Doctor and Coach Fagan. They were totally ignored. 

    My favourite comment is "what would have happened if the charged player was a Collingwood player?"

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    20 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    How can it be allowed for a Premiership player of a club, to officiate in an incident, where a player of his club, or the club they are playing are concerned. Not only Christian who rubs Greene out, but 2 out of the 3 Tribunal members were past Pies players.

    This is a disgrace. Another AFL one.

    Justice has to be seen to be done.

    Oh and by the way, Christian who was all about the injury caused to the victim,  in rubbing out players, totally ignored in this incident that there was no injury or severe action in the incident as stated by the victim Neale, the club Doctor and Coach Fagan. They were totally ignored. 

    My favourite comment is "what would have happened if the charged player was a Collingwood player?"

    I suspect the case would have either been thrown out or at worse another fine issued Mr Leg.

    Eddie and the Pies are No.1 in Gil's eyes and have been at AFL level for quite some time imv.  A very special cosy association...

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    The absolute arrogance of the AFL to not for one moment think, or perhaps care, that there is a massive conflict of interest between the MRP personnel and the consequences of the outcome. Three ex Collingwood players!!!

    'Integrity' might as well be a foreign word to Gill and the AFL 

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    2 hours ago, Redleg said:

    What, rubbing his hand over a player's forehead in a pack?  Everybody agrees there was no eye gouge.

    Yep.

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    4 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

    The absolute arrogance of the AFL to not for one moment think, or perhaps care, that there is a massive conflict of interest between the MRP personnel and the consequences of the outcome. Three ex Collingwood players!!!

    'Integrity' might as well be a foreign word to Gill and the AFL 

     Dunstall just said a very poor look for the AFL and that former  Pies players should have recused themselves, because of conflict perception.

    Eddie grinning like a Cheshire Cat saying nothing to do with Collingwood.

     

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    AFL would love to have the Giants in a grand final but more than that, they like the $s involved in a Collingwood grand final so bye, bye Toby Greene.

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    1 hour ago, Elwood 3184 said:

    AFL would love to have the Giants in a grand final but more than that, they like the $s involved in a Collingwood grand final so bye, bye Toby Greene.

    I actually don't think it matters who is in the GF, as it is always a sellout and TV is there.

    With the Tigers or Cats, there would have been a Vic team anyway.

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    1 hour ago, Redleg said:

    I actually don't think it matters who is in the GF, as it is always a sellout and TV is there.

    With the Tigers or Cats, there would have been a Vic team anyway.

    if greene was rubbed out for the dogs game as he should have been......

    then bears would have won last week. green was bog and bears only lost by a kick

    so.....gws don't deserve to win today because they shouldn't even be there, and the club who should be [censored] off is the brisvegas bears

    needless of the above, the farce of the tribunal and appeal boards is a disgrace

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    24 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    On another note, what do people think of New Zealand’s tactic of use of two fly-halves in the Rugby World Cup?

    Fair go WJ ! 

    Who would ever bother thinking about anything to do with New Zealand ?

    Well ….. I'll grant the possible exception of The Society for the Protection of Sheep.

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    Surely this couldn’t actually ever happen.
     

     

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    You could truly argue that the Greene fiasco truly galvanised the Giants.

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    8 hours ago, Redleg said:

    You could truly argue that the Greene fiasco truly galvanised the Giants.

    Whatever the reason Me.Leg how good was it to see the Pies lose by 4 points and drop out of the GF?

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    22 hours ago, daisycutter said:

    if i was a lawyer, i could (would) argue anything.......alas i'm not

    No you couldn't ( wouldn't ).

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    30 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    No you couldn't ( wouldn't ).

    if i was a lawyer......i'd never give free advice

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