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So all off season we have been stoked on seeing these new jumpers, the launch was wonderful, they photographs too..all the marketing stuff over the off season was brilliant. But I have just looked at the HUN photos and some posted by people today and I am sorry, but unless I am going colour blind, those new jumpers are 100% pink or fuscia at best. It's a joke guys! Essendon and Sydney jumper manufacturer's have no problems getting the red right, why us?

If anyone needs to see the photos go here: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gallery-e6frf9o6-1225999604981?page=16

If that is red then I am Keith Richards. Look forward to opening the paper every weekend to see the team of the PINK AND THE BLUE! At least we can wear these for the cancer clash without having to manufacture something new! JOKE!

I purchased the new jumper and can clarify that the red is actually a lot darker than previous versions.

ill put a comparison pic up...

The socks look red but I agree the jumpers look pinkish. Could be something to do with the reflective properties of the material affecting the camera.

The jumpers on display today definitely had a pinkish hue to it.

I even heard a club admin person say the same and that they weren't happy about it.

Having seen the jumper I am not happy about the red colour and from far away it looks like the Swans jumper. The blue on the V should be more prominent to make it stand out more.

Having said that the white jumper is awful and the clash strip should be red.

they do look pink

check out pic 21.. beamer looks like something out of '300'

They do look a little pinkish. Definitely not the colour of their socks but that might have to do with something from the material point of view.

But Cam Schwab did say, bit by bit, inch by inch, regarding the blood red colour. Fwiw, the top I bought (faulty) pre-Christmas is blood red and not "pinkish".

Wasn't there a known issue with the first delivered guernseys ? If they aren't blood red then quite frankly the club ought to chuckem back at NB with a please explain .. And FIX !!!

I would hope the guernseys used today were the 'faulty' ones initially produced by New Balance.

Hopefully it can be rectified before the season starts.

Wasn't there a known issue with the first delivered guernseys ? If they aren't blood red then quite frankly the club ought to chuckem back at NB with a please explain .. And FIX !!!

Seriously couldn't agree more. None of this, "oh well they promise to work on the material over the next summer and we will make do with these"

I am sick of these apparel muppets. Seriously, they can't do a bloody thing as directed and love charging fane out the @rse for cheaply manufactured goods. The club should put a rocket up 'em.

Seriously,whoever designed those clash strips didn't bother putting any thought into it either. They stole ideas of posters on this site. Tried to improve it and make it more 'edgy' and as Demonland commented lost it a little.

But, honestly, that is not blood red and someone should have photographed the jumpers on a player in the open daylight before approving them. What the whole things tells me is, whoever controls the MFC merchandising/apparel show is a lazy sod who doesn't think hard enough.

Send em back...i want RED.

Schwabby, if you are reading this, please give us your honest thoughts. We appreciate your hard work and honesty, but something didn't look like what you guys were hoping for.

I would hope the guernseys used today were the 'faulty' ones initially produced by New Balance.

Hopefully it can be rectified before the season starts.

The faults you mention were nothing to do with the red V mickhrocks1. It was about the logo and the stars. Unless there is another issue I don't know about.

I always thought our previous jumpers, even up until last year, looked much more red in person than on the telly.

Especially the Sunday 7 games, they looked very pink. I'm wondering if this is a similar problem? Jaded?

If anyone needs to see the photos go here: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gallery-e6frf9o6-1225999604981?page=16

If that is red then I am Keith Richards. Look forward to opening the paper every weekend to see the team of the PINK AND THE BLUE! At least we can wear these for the cancer clash without having to manufacture something new! JOKE!

It's possible that the exposure on the Camera was not set up correctly, as RED is always the first colour to Faulter.

I have not seen the new jumpers with my own eyes yet, so i will reserve judgement, but i do hope we have Blood red on our jumpers on Gameday Round 1.

I've said this many times before on this forum, but people just have no idea how hard it is to get a good red.

That coupled with the fact they don't really know what they want...

Pleasing some people is a nightmare.

That coupled with the fact they don't really know what they want...

Who?

They! You know... People!

Look, red is notorious for being a colour where people get this idea in their head what they think they want, but it is not achievable.

When presented with the options, eventually they all ask where is the darker intense red.

Which doesn't really exist.

At least not in the form they envisage.

Sometimes it's like being asked to design a round square.

They! You know... People!

Look, red is notorious for being a colour where people get this idea in their head what they think they want, but it is not achievable.

When presented with the options, eventually they all ask where is the darker intense red.

Which doesn't really exist.

At least not in the form they envisage.

Sometimes it's like being asked to design a round square.

well if thats the case put the jumpers back to last years red coz at least it was less pink!

the socks are the perfect colour

Who?

The wizards

It's the material not the colour. The sheen of the fabric makes it look pink. The socks are dark red, it's the same colour just a different fabric. I say get the older members to knit them jumpers. Then we'd get the red we want.

I was at the game and the jumpers look pink, both my wife and I commented the same and I actually thought they were using last years jumpers for the cancer when I first got there until the players ran towards where I was standing...

Not happy with the colour but looks like we are stuck with it

They! You know... People!

Look, red is notorious for being a colour where people get this idea in their head what they think they want, but it is not achievable.

When presented with the options, eventually they all ask where is the darker intense red.

Which doesn't really exist.

At least not in the form they envisage.

Sometimes it's like being asked to design a round square.

it is easier to get a blood red from Wool than it is synthetic materials, that we have now-a dark blood red is possible, but not easy to achieve.

We still have trouble colour grading reds for TV transmissions today.

Funny just looked at the link and the photos and besides the stef martin one they all look red... didn't appear that way in person

well if thats the case put the jumpers back to last years red coz at least it was less pink!

the socks are the perfect colour

But its darker!

Didn't supporters want a darker red?

That's the problem with listening to what people say they want, when they don't really know what they want.

Darker red usually ends up looking more fuchsia or maroon, rather than what people perceive in their mind as being red.

So you want to make it lighter now..?

So you want to make it lighter now..?

Definately not!

Anyway, in this case the medium also is having a major impact on the colour.

I don't think we'll be able to get it "right" without changing the material used for the jumpers.

They! You know... People!

Look, red is notorious for being a colour where people get this idea in their head what they think they want, but it is not achievable.

When presented with the options, eventually they all ask where is the darker intense red.

Which doesn't really exist.

At least not in the form they envisage.

Sometimes it's like being asked to design a round square.

Essendon, Bulldogs, Sydney, St Kilda, Adelaide don't end up with pink.