Jack Viney stars again

[e25 5]

So... is Jack to play any more games in the U/16 Carnival or is it all over now?

[Hobbits's 17]

Yep, the thread has been hijacked by biggest non-issue in football.

china game must be 2nd biggest.

[beelzebub 23,383]

Heres a link to the whole program

WARNING its a 4 Mb PDF

2010 NAB U16 Carnival

Jack Viney listed first cab off the rank for SA

Edited July 5, 2010 by belzebub59

[pitchfork 181]

Picture from the weekends game.

I am pretty sure Jack is the one for SA on the left...

DINNER TIME!

[Face Your Demons 175]

Current Rule

In 2007 the AFL made an important amendment for the father-son rule, establishing a bidding system to determine which draft pick a club must give up to secure the potential recruit. The current system works as follows:[1] [2]

* 1. Individual clubs are free to nominate potential father-son recruits within the above eligibility guidelines.

* 2. A meeting is held on the Monday before the start of trade week where clubs can bid for the nominated players. Each club has the option to bid, in reverse ladder order, for the nominated players.

* 3. If a bid is made, the club that nominated the father-son player must use its next available selection if it wishes to retain its hold on that player. If a club nominating the father-son player declines to match the selection nominated, the club with the successful bid must use that selection at the Draft to select the player.

* 4. Any club that makes a successful bid on a father-son selection must to the pick the player they nominate.

* 5. If no bid is made by another club, the club that nominated the father-son eligible player will forfeit its last selection in the draft to select the player.

For example in 2008 the Western Bulldogs had to use their 1st round selection, #14, to secure Ayce Cordy after St Kilda bid their 1st round selection for him. Ayce's father, Brian, played 124 games for the Bulldogs in the 1980s.

I still don't get it, but i think if we want him his ours.

[jayceebee31 761]

So... is Jack to play any more games in the U/16 Carnival or is it all over now?

no- tommorrow he plays against WA for the under 16 championship.Just hope he grows some- 175 - is a little small.

Edited July 5, 2010 by jayceebee31

[beelzebub 23,383]

I still don't get it, but i think if we want him his ours.

In a nutshel... providing he actually wants to come to us then yes..he's ours.. the fineprint is we have to match ( relatively ) any one else bid. But we get to trump essentially. Not quite lock it in Eddie..but almost

[dee-luded 2,959]

DINNER TIME!

LOL... good call. If thats him, he looks like a lion after the family meal.

[Adzman 2,154]

Rhino, my source is Chris Connelly! Chris said that they have been talking with Todd about Jack playing for the club.

If you bump into Chris ask him, he will confirm this to be true. I do not have a media link as this is something Chris has said during a conversation in May.

[jayceebee31 761]

Picture from the weekends game.

I am pretty sure Jack is the one for SA on the left...

You are definately correct- that is Jack- No1. Watch TAC show Sunday- they will be highlighting him as a future champion.

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

This isn't meant to be a negative post but what is really separating us from the better teams is they drool over what they have and we drool over what we might have. We've been doing it for a couple of years. First we wet ourselves over Jack Watts and then we went into hysteria over getting the one and two draft picks and now it is Viney. I'm not knocking the enthusiasm but we really need to worry about the here and now and let the wiser heads of the club plan for the future because pinning our hopes on babies that may or may not become good players is only adding to the brain damage we are getting as we bang our heads on the keyboard waiting for the MFC to produce another star.

Don't get me wrong: passion is good but the level of desperation is quite scary sometimes. Some will make it, some won't and others will surprise us, but to expect that we will somehow be a power because we got some certain kid just lets up for a bad fall when the law of averages rears it's ugly head.

[Gooner 9]

In regards to the contract, it doesn't matter whether there's offer, acceptance or consideration or whether the onus of proof has been satisfied, because he doesn't have the legal capacity to make such a contract, being only 16. He must be at least 18 in order for a contract to be binding.

[beelzebub 23,383]

In regards to the contract, it doesn't matter whether there's offer, acceptance or consideration or whether the onus of proof has been satisfied, because he doesn't have the legal capacity to make such a contract, being only 16. He must be at least 18 in order for a contract to be binding.

and the prize goes to .......

I think we're al jumping the gun a bit here. Am sure the club is keeping in good with the Viney clan and when its appropriate things will happen. Pretty sure he'll listen to his old man too. Just depends on what that will be lol.

we have a good list, we will be a lot better in 2 years time, he'll have played some senior footy no doubt with the Roosters and all things being equal will probably slot right in just as Trengove has.

Looking good Lets not worry hey

Edited July 6, 2010 by belzebub59

[DemonDave 1,092]

Wasnt there a thread exactly the same as this when Chris Johnson was at this age?

[jayceebee31 761]

In regards to the contract, it doesn't matter whether there's offer, acceptance or consideration or whether the onus of proof has been satisfied, because he doesn't have the legal capacity to make such a contract, being only 16. He must be at least 18 in order for a contract to be binding.

Very interesting indeed and thanks for pointing this out.So ,if as I am told Jack Viney may come over a year earlier for schooiling and possibly some pre training- whom would sign for him -a manager?.I hear Todd is acting on his behalf. If indeed the above did take place and Jack at the last minute says stick it- what grounds would we have then?

[Gooner 9]

Very interesting indeed and thanks for pointing this out.So ,if as I am told Jack Viney may come over a year earlier for schooiling and possibly some pre training- whom would sign for him -a manager?.I hear Todd is acting on his behalf. If indeed the above did take place and Jack at the last minute says stick it- what grounds would we have then?

An employment contract is ok, as long as it's for the benefit of the minor.

I don't think we've got much of a case if Jack decided to nominate for the draft outside the father-son rules. The contract for his employment once drafted by the club would be binding, although the contract (if it met the requirements for contract formation), may not.

The other issue, is that the Dees, if they wanted to hold Jack to his word, would probably struggle to prove that there was an intention to enter legal relations anyway.

[The O 39]

Thought I'd raise an interesting point, in that Jack played a fair bit of school footy last year at PAC in a midfield that included both Jack Trengove and Luke Tapscott. If (and more likely when) Jack joins the MFC via the F/S in 2012 draft, he'll have no shortage of help fitting into the MFC environment.

Edited July 6, 2010 by The O

[beelzebub 23,383]

just by way of interest...how far out can a club flag interest as per father /son ?

[Jonesy!!! 27]

it doesnt matter how far out we can express interest.

schwabby will have it all sorted.. they have been talking to him and he will let his footy do the talking

the kid is 16..we should give the kid time to develop

i hope you guys look back at this thread in a few years when he signs on the dotted line without question

reeeellllaaaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

just by way of interest...how far out can a club flag interest as per father /son ?

at conception if not earlier. B)

[beelzebub 23,383]

it doesnt matter how far out we can express interest.

schwabby will have it all sorted.. they have been talking to him and he will let his footy do the talking

the kid is 16..we should give the kid time to develop

i hope you guys look back at this thread in a few years when he signs on the dotted line without question

reeeellllaaaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

thats pretty much what I and others have been saying all along

[beelzebub 23,383]

at conception if not earlier. B)

but of course..!!lol

[Matt Demon 1,482]

Jack was among the best again for SA. Interesting to see Dean Baileys son playing well for Metro.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/97659/default.aspx

[jayceebee31 761]

Jack was in the best again in the last match yesterday where his team won the Under 16 Championship.

[half back 0]

Rhino, my source is Chris Connelly! Chris said that they have been talking with Todd about Jack playing for the club.

If you bump into Chris ask him, he will confirm this to be true. I do not have a media link as this is something Chris has said during a conversation in May.

Whats the media link, I don't think i saw that