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Melbourne v Brisbane thread

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Alright, down to business.

Melbourne face Brisbane at home next Saturday night in front of a potential 5,000 new members (international students)...

Who would you like to see in the "In's & Out's"?

And what is required to beat the Lions, how to approach this game?

Your thoughts please?

PS, Sylvia was white hot today, 5 goal... love it :)

 

I'd like to see us shut down their big guns in the forward line, break even in clearances and win the midfield battle. DO all that and we should be fine.

 

Play Stef Martin. He can control the ruck in our half, Jamar can drop back in the defensive half and help out the defenders. Will also mean Merritt will most likely play on Martin, somewhat freeing up Sylvia, Green and Petterd.

If our defenders can win, Melbourne can win.


In: Martin, Rivers

Out: Dunn, Beamer (if suspended)

If Beamer gets off *fingers crossed*, I'd just swap Dunn with Martin.

I'd play an extra man in defense (god knows we usually only play 3 forwards anyway), and have Martin zoning off to help Frawley (Fevola) and Warnock (Brown).

In the middle, Junior will need to go with Power and I'd actually give the job of Black to Bruce. Get him out of the backline for next round, please!

If we can get away with a 3-4 goal loss that would be great, but I wouldn't be surprised if we lose by 10 goals if the Fevola-Brown show takes off. We have to keep the midfield pressure on and hope that this will lessen the quality of the delivery to these two, to give our defenders a fighting chance.

In an ironic and delicious move, I hope to see Grimes play on, and beat, Travis "Jesus" Johnstone :)

Worth noting that Jordie McKenzie is No# 1 for tackles in the AFL!!! With Junior and Moloney rounding out three Demons in the top 10... Beating Brissie will come from pressure, turnovers and more tackles. Great to see Silvia throwing it about .

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Alright, down to business.

Melbourne face Brisbane at home next Saturday night in front of a potential 5,000 new members (international students)...

Who would you like to see in the "In's & Out's"?

And what is required to beat the Lions, how to approach this game?

Your thoughts please?

PS, Sylvia was white hot today, 5 goal... love it :)

They have been beating us up for a few years now; i'd be happy if we can match their intensity and at least walk off the ground with our heads held high. Who knows if we can control the midfield we may even win. Our mobile forward line against their twin towers, which one will kick the most goals?

 

Our mobile forward line against their twin towers, which one will kick the most goals?

Probably the forwardline which is dominating the race for the Coleman :P

With all due respect, Jonathan Brown shits all over anything Melbourne has in a way of a forward. I hope Warnock/Frawley smash him, but I can't lie and say I'm not looking forward to seeing him play live. Fevola on the other hand can get stuffed, and I hope Frawley smacks him around good.


It'll be what defence works better on the day. Merrett and co againt Sylvia and co... Or Warnock/Frawley/Garland/Grimes (Rivers?) against the best forward combo and most impressive KP forward set-up in the AFL.

On one hand you have an up and coming defence (5th best in the AFL this year), against a top-3 attack. And up the other end you have the 6th best defence up against the... umm... 13th best attack.

I don't like our chances too much, but I think we should hope to get close to them. If we're within 4 goals going into the last 20 minutes, we're a chance.

PS, I'm looking forward to watching what the two midfields end up doing. I prefer our in-and-unders, but they have some good run and carry players who are in form. Get Scully to run with Black and learn how his type of player goes about it. Or maybe Black can learn from Tom?

:D

Let's see Frank Grimes play on Trapper for at least half the Game.

Interesting how trapper will be received by the crowd, really looking forward to next saturday night.

And we are on Free to Air at last.

Fevola on the other hand can get stuffed, and I hope Frawley smacks him around good.

Frawley will play on Brown. Warnock on Fevola I reckon. Dunn was serviceable again today so doubt he will be dropped.

In Martin

Out Bartram

I think this will be won in the guts(like any game really), but if we can limit their supply to the Fev and Brown show it will go a long way to deciding the game. I also think they will struggle to match up on our unpredictable forward line

I'd have Frawley on Fev BRFE, don't think Warnock would have the pace.

If they get quality delivery, they'll carve us up, so we have to win the midfield battle to just stand a chance.

We've got a small chance, we have to start well. It will be nice to have the crowd behind us though, let's try and get a good crowd for this game!


The more I think about it, the more I think we'll see Martin back into the side. Jamar can't ruck the whole game alone this time, and Martin has shown a glimmer of form at Casey the last couple of weeks. FF and back-up ruck for him. If he and Jamar rotate through FF it shouldn't hurt our rotations in the middle that much.

The pressure and intensity coming from the midfield will have to reach new heights stop the amount of ball going into Brisbane's forward line. I think one of their biggest threats in the midfield is Rischetile...or whatever. He has been racking it up and providing good ball.

The more I think about it, the more I think we'll see Martin back into the side. Jamar can't ruck the whole game alone this time, and Martin has shown a glimmer of form at Casey the last couple of weeks. FF and back-up ruck for him. If he and Jamar rotate through FF it shouldn't hurt our rotations in the middle that much.

True.

No way is it fair on Jamar to be exoected to battle on his own for the 4th straight week, and against Clark/Leunberger no less.

I just saw that Stefan Martin kicked 3 for Casey today.

Thats 6 in 2 weeks, and will be needed this Saturday night vs the Lions.

In - Martin

Out - Bartram or Bennell, flip a coin

In: Martin, Rivers

Out: Dunn, Beamer (if suspended)

If Beamer gets off *fingers crossed*, I'd just swap Dunn with Martin.

I'd play an extra man in defense (god knows we usually only play 3 forwards anyway), and have Martin zoning off to help Frawley (Fevola) and Warnock (Brown).

In the middle, Junior will need to go with Power and I'd actually give the job of Black to Bruce. Get him out of the backline for next round, please!

If we can get away with a 3-4 goal loss that would be great, but I wouldn't be surprised if we lose by 10 goals if the Fevola-Brown show takes off. We have to keep the midfield pressure on and hope that this will lessen the quality of the delivery to these two, to give our defenders a fighting chance.

In an ironic and delicious move, I hope to see Grimes play on, and beat, Travis "Jesus" Johnstone :)

What a negative way to go into a game.

There is no way Dunn will get dropped. Martin for Dunn is an instant downgrade.

He has been presenting all day in all his games and providing options when coming out of defence and from the middle, I think he is leading our marks. Although some of his decisions and kicking can be a bit sus at times Martin will be no improvement, and I can't see martin providing what Dunn has. I know you would have Martin zoning off but there are plenty of players who can do that which are currently in the 22.


True.

No way is it fair on Jamar to be exoected to battle on his own for the 4th straight week, and against Clark/Leunberger no less.

I just saw that Stefan Martin kicked 3 for Casey today.

Thats 6 in 2 weeks, and will be needed this Saturday night vs the Lions.

In - Martin

Out - Bartram or Bennell, flip a coin

I agree that Martin should be played. Spencer might be a better ruckman but the form shown by Jamar means the greater need is to have a key tall forward who can ruck 5-8 minutes a quarter, rather than someone whose only real attributes are as a ruckman.In the 2nd quarter chances `were squandered because the option of kicking to the top of the square just wasn't an option at all. There was no-one who could take a pack mark

The question as to who goes out is hard. I don't think there's any chance that Dunn can be dropped. Bartram would be most unlucky and every side needs one out and out stopper, and I think he's our best at that.[it would rob the side of a great attacking onballer if the skipper had to adopt a tagging role at present} The side really is loaded up with midfielders and I wonder whether Bail might be the unfortunate one to miss out? If Moloney is rubbed out it makes it easier I suppose.

The other query is Rivers. If he really really is fit I'd play him against this power-packed attack. If Moloney survives I don't know who you would drop for both Martin and Rivers.

We got away with Lynden as 2nd ruck today because poor old Troy Simmonds has deteriorated much more than I'd realised. A year or 2 ago he would have slaughtered us when Jamar was off the ball--not today.

And finally, I owe Colin Sylvia an apology. He played well. To me the greates bonus was his kicking for goal from set shots, which he often misses. Today he was excellent kicking for goal and I wondered whether he'd spent a quiet 6 weeks practising it. In fact as a side we kicked a lot of great goals today--how about Bartram?!

I'll mention goal kicking generally in a separate thread.

Let's see Frank Grimes play on Trapper for at least half the Game.

Interesting how trapper will be received by the crowd, really looking forward to next saturday night.

And we are on Free to Air at last.

Nope!

Port vs St Kilda is being shown on Channel 10...we're on Fox Sports.

 

I tell you this now.

If Moloney doesn't get off for his bump, then the system is a complete fail.

Very similar to Kennedy's bump on Sylvia so I am expecting Moloney to get off.

One more thing to add. Scott Mclaren had a 350th to forget today.

I tell you this now.

If Moloney doesn't get off for his bump, then the system is a complete fail.

I agree, and also the charge was recorded on the AFL website as "striking" rather than "rough conduct". Didn't appear to be a strike to me.

It was a free kick for a late bump, didn't appear to be any head contact, shouldn't have been a report. He should be OK.


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