http://www.standard.net.au/news/local/sport/football-australian-rules/demon-on-song-victory-sweet-for-jordie/1800832.aspx?storypage=2

"Colin Sylvia and Cale Morton are returning, however the inclusions might bump McKenzie off the field."

maybe the journo knows something we don't..

I like McKenzie but at this stage Sylvia or Morton are guns, are near their prime and must be played if fit. The kid is still learning. He'll be back.

I think The Standard has set the standard for crap journalism.

Morton is another month away, at least.

Yeah. Perhaps Jordie mentioned that he'd struggle to keep his spot when they were both back and the journo inferred something that wasn't there?

Yeah. Perhaps Jordie mentioned that he'd struggle to keep his spot when they were both back and the journo inferred something that wasn't there?

I think the journo doesn't have an inch of credibility:

Poor accuracy in the first half kept the home side to one goal but a six-goal-to-none second half was enough to seal the deal in the low scoring encounter.

Close but no cigar.

http://www.standard.net.au/news/local/sport/football-australian-rules/demon-on-song-victory-sweet-for-jordie/1800832.aspx?storypage=2

maybe the journo knows something we don't..

jurno is just a fool.

I think the journo has no idea, and even if they both came back in Jordie would not be one of the two to make way.

Idiot journalism aside, would their return really push Jordie out. I think he has been one of our most important players in the first 3 rounds. If it has been our increased pressure that resulted in the improved performace, then surely we would look to the players that have been included that executed this pressure.

I think the journo has no idea, and even if they both came back in Jordie would not be one of the two to make way.

Cale Morton is walking laps, had a chat over the fence at JO, well ahead of schedule but coming along nicely, at least another three weeks

Also Jordie has not been elevated to the senior list, another bit of bad journalism,

Geez, you guys are a bunch of keyboard heroes, aren't you?

Sure, there was a factual error in that piece with regard to the second half scoring on Sunday. Sure, the information about Morton being a chance to return isn't likely to be right

But does it really warrant the nastiness that's spilled forth from most of you? I think not. Branding someone who is in all likelihood a reporter in her early 20s, in her first job out of uni, an "idiot", a "fool" and a practitioner of "crap journalism" reflects worse on you than the errors do on her.

Geez, you guys are a bunch of keyboard heroes, aren't you?

Sure, there was a factual error in that piece with regard to the second half scoring on Sunday. Sure, the information about Morton being a chance to return isn't likely to be right

But does it really warrant the nastiness that's spilled forth from most of you? I think not. Branding someone who is in all likelihood a reporter in her early 20s, in her first job out of uni, an "idiot", a "fool" and a practitioner of "crap journalism" reflects worse on you than the errors do on her.

You wouldn't be doing Media/Journalism/Communications at Uni by any chance would you, I get the same reaction from my daughter who is when I have the temerity to criticise the inhabitants of the 'Fourth Estate"

You wouldn't be doing Media/Journalism/Communications at Uni by any chance would you, I get the same reaction from my daughter who is when I have the temerity to criticise the inhabitants of the 'Fourth Estate"

No, I'm not. I just like to keep things in perspective.

By all means, have a crack at Caroline Wilson or Mike Sheahan if they were to do the same thing, but castigating someone who is in all likelihood a very junior reporter for inconsequential factual errors is the worst kind of journalist bashing.

You wouldn't be doing Media/Journalism/Communications at Uni by any chance would you, I get the same reaction from my daughter who is when I have the temerity to criticise the inhabitants of the 'Fourth Estate"

My thoughts exactly. The media doesn't appreciate the scrutiny it applies turned back on itself.

It is shoddy journalism and the writer should be held accountable for the garbage he has recounted. It is either fictional or poorly researched.

Edit: Perhaps this should be another thread. And Mikey if this junior journo isn't made accountable for writing this rubbish then a junior journo he will remain.

Morton is no where near ready to return.

My thoughts exactly. The media doesn't appreciate the scrutiny it applies turned back on itself.

It is shoddy journalism and the writer should be held accountable for the garbage he has recounted. It is either fictional or poorly researched.

There certainly need to be accountability, no doubt. Hopefully the errors have been picked up and pointed out - to both the reporter and the editors who overlooked them. But I reckon some of the abuse hurled at this reporter from some posters is more about those posters making themselves feel superior and not about holding a reporter to account for their error.

Edit: Perhaps this should be another thread. And Mikey if this junior journo isn't made accountable for writing this rubbish then a junior journo he will remain.

What was that about poorly researched?

No, I'm not. I just like to keep things in perspective.

By all means, have a crack at Caroline Wilson or Mike Sheahan if they were to do the same thing, but castigating someone who is in all likelihood a very junior reporter for inconsequential factual errors is the worst kind of journalist bashing.

Fair enough, "idiot" was probably a bit harsh. But overall the media is appallingly bad in this country, not just with football.

McKenzie is a rookie listed player who got elevated when Morton was injured (Is that correct?)

However if Morton returns then there needs to be someone to go off the main list back to the rookies?

We have three elevated rookies (Spencer, Newton and Jordie at the moment and two players on LTI (Gawn and Jurrah)).

I would think that would have to be Newton demoted. I cant see Jordie going down.

I am with Mikey J on the unnecessary and somewhat typical anonymous swipes at journalism.

I might be making this up, but I'm pretty sure you are now able to permanently promote a rookie onto your senior list in the middle of the year, and not have it be at the expense of a LTI.

Is that right?

What was that about poorly researched?

Yeah, where's me pay cheque then.

Fair enough, "idiot" was probably a bit harsh. But overall the media is appallingly bad in this country, not just with football.

Strewth! It's just a local-boy-making-his-way-in-the-big-time feel good story. Lighten up and give the girl a break.

The suggestion his position is in jeopardy seems to have come from Jordie.

I am with Mikey J on the unnecessary and somewhat typical anonymous swipes at journalism.

A journalist at a country newspaper covers just about everything. She probably spends half her life bored to snores in the council chamber reporting on planning issues or a controversy over a nursing home extension. Bit much to expect her to know the Melbourne score in every detail last Saturday.

I might be making this up, but I'm pretty sure you are now able to permanently promote a rookie onto your senior list in the middle of the year, and not have it be at the expense of a LTI.

Is that right?

I just wonder is there a timing issue between being able to elevate and the return of Morton.

...typical anonymous swipes at journalism.

Only typical because of how bad they are, and i'm not talking about country fluff pieces i'm talking about major inaccuracies from major and supposedely reputable papers. Part of my job is to brief people on what the media prints inaccurately, or misunderstands. It is truly shocking how bad it is. By and large Journalists are idiots, and idiots with power, but it was unfair to paint this one with the same brush, born out of frustration mostly.

You can check out her Twitter page, if you see who she is following, it may explain her sports reporting or lack of, criticism has a place as long as it is constructive

http://twitter.com/meagily