not sure, either nat or watts...

would almost come down to whether we get warnock or not... if we get warnock, take watts, if we don't get him, take naita...

Don't forget Grimes, and even Petterd.

Grimes poss', is noted in the middle as a hard type but would like to know if he wins a lot of contested football?

Pettard from what of i've seen of him looks more suited to carrying the ball.

I'd like to get a ball magnet who is damaging either by handball or carrying & kicking.

I haven't seen any of them.

Doesnt Rich have question marks over his speed?

My choice will have to wait untill the carnival and the big decider - Robbie Warnock. If we get him, i would pick Watts/Rich.

All depends where we finish too.

a mister R .Warnock, most valid point so far

Grimes poss', is noted in the middle as a hard type but would like to know if he wins a lot of contested football?

Well they likened him to Kirk from Sydney so I dare say he wins a lot of contested footy.

Grimes poss', is noted in the middle as a hard type but would like to know if he wins a lot of contested football?

Yes, he gets a fair bit of it. I remember back to last years championships, where Cale got the most possessions, then followed by Rhys Palmer and Grimes closely behind him. Plus he got a fair bit of it for the Northern Knights too. Contested possessions are always going to be be fewer than Un-cont, but he likes it in the guts and is tough.

I'd like to get a ball magnet who is damaging either by handball or carrying & kicking.

That would be Prismall. Gets plenty of it, can play inside/outside and has very decent disposal.

Yes, he gets a fair bit of it. I remember back to last years championships, where Cale got the most possessions, then followed by Rhys Palmer and Grimes closely behind him. Plus he got a fair bit of it for the Northern Knights too. Contested possessions are always going to be be fewer than Un-cont, but he likes it in the guts and is tough.

That would be Prismall. Gets plenty of it, can play inside/outside and has very decent disposal.

If we finish last, get Prismall in the pre-season draft with pick 1 and trade our 3rd round pick for Rob Warnock...........Cooking with gas.

After watching the u18 champs today i would definitely take Watts. Didn't star but is very classy and his 2nd efforts are terrific. Tall, quick, athletic, and very smart.

Yes, he gets a fair bit of it. I remember back to last years championships, where Cale got the most possessions, then followed by Rhys Palmer and Grimes closely behind him. Plus he got a fair bit of it for the Northern Knights too.

Contested possessions are always going to be be fewer than Un-cont, but he likes it in the guts and is tough.

That would be Prismall. Gets plenty of it, can play inside/outside and has very decent disposal.

Thanks for that D D, thats encouraging about Grimesy, ->>>

so that is IN/OUTSIDE players then seems we have Grimes, Mclean?, poss Buckley?, ,,,still room for more class here....

Tall Forwards,- we need to replace the hardness of Neitz. Newton to me lacks the hit 'em hard approach, so I think we have to rely on Miller here. He needs help in the Tall (Physical) Forward stakes..

Newton to me looks the tall roaming forward like a tarrant or similar off half forward.

Talk of Natanui being a marketing machine is quadswopple. Any player taken with the amount of talent Watts has will be the marketing machine we need.

The only query I have with Watts is whether he will continue to play for his school or have a crack at AFL aka Xav Ellis and Luke Ball.

Thanks for that D D, thats encouraging about Grimesy, ->>>

so that is IN/OUTSIDE players then seems we have Grimes, Mclean?, poss Buckley?, ,,,still room for more class here....

Tall Forwards,- we need to replace the hardness of Neitz. Newton to me lacks the hit 'em hard approach, so I think we have to rely on Miller here. He needs help in the Tall (Physical) Forward stakes..

Newton to me looks the tall roaming forward like a tarrant or similar off half forward.

Newton's so 'roaming' he may as well sit in the GSS and eat a pie.

Not part of any serious crack we have at our next flag.

Newton's so 'roaming' he may as well sit in the GSS and eat a pie.

Not part of any serious crack we have at our next flag.

No idea how you can say that with any real basis, just on the handfull of games the lads played. He's a forward & warrants more time given to the coaching staff to get him turned in the right direction.

Talk of Natanui being a marketing machine is quadswopple. Any player taken with the amount of talent Watts has will be the marketing machine we need.

The only query I have with Watts is whether he will continue to play for his school or have a crack at AFL aka Xav Ellis and Luke Ball.

I think I read somewhere that Watts is committed to finishing year 12 next year, and will stay in Melbourne to do so even if he gets picked up by a W.A. team.

I think I read somewhere that Watts is committed to finishing year 12 next year, and will stay in Melbourne to do so even if he gets picked up by a W.A. team.

Similar to what young Crow Patrick Dangerfield is doing.

I would take Watts, should we decide we want a ruckman then it will be Naitinui.

I am wary of this Jack Watts. Fergus Watts is an individual that comes to mind. DOMINANT and STRONG at APS LEVEL but now ruuning around with Collegians in the Amateurs.

I am wary of this Jack Watts. Fergus Watts is an individual that comes to mind. DOMINANT and STRONG at APS LEVEL but now ruuning around with Collegians in the Amateurs.

They're not Brothers, but even if they were, have you heard of Jim and Brian Stynes, Stephen and David Kernahan, Todd and Jay Viney, Stan and Mark Alves, Robert and Tom Flower, Darren and Damien Gaspar, and many many more...

In fact, how many AFL players have Brothers, or do you think they're all only children ?

They're not Brothers, but even if they were, have you heard of Jim and Brian Stynes, Stephen and David Kernahan, Todd and Jay Viney, Stan and Mark Alves, Robert and Tom Flower, Darren and Damien Gaspar, and many many more...

In fact, how many AFL players have Brothers, or do you think they're all only children ?

I don't know where you got the idea that I was inferring that they were related. The surname is incidental. I was comparing them in terms of stature and style of play, one played for Wesley College and the other plays for Brighton Grammar. What I am questioning is the strength of APS football compared to other organisations.

The big issue with Fergus was that he turned like the Queen Mary and was slooooow.

Jack is like lightning and has the agility of an elite basketballer.

Completely different kettles of fish.

I don't know where you got the idea that I was inferring that they were related. The surname is incidental. I was comparing them in terms of stature and style of play, one played for Wesley College and the other plays for Brighton Grammar. What I am questioning is the strength of APS football compared to other organisations.

The APS is a pretty strong brand of junior footy and he also plays with the Sandy Dragons.

What other "organisations" do you prefer ?

The APS is a pretty strong brand of junior footy and he also plays with the Sandy Dragons.

What other "organisations" do you prefer ?

TAC and equivalents across the states and territories. Not saying that the notion of the TAC is stronger than the APS is sacrosanct though.

I haven't voted yet and probably won't until after the carnival and draft camp. Up until now I've been in the Naitanui camp, however I'm begining to change my mind. There are a couple of very, very good mids in this draft and then there's Watt. I have my concerns over the latter, mainly that we haven't seen too many 'great' games from him, but if he continues to perform for the rest of the season then it would be hard to go past him.

At this stage I'd be happy to get Watt, Rich or Hartlett with our pick, regardless of whether it's 1, 2 or 3.

Jack Watts is a gun, yet so too is Naitanui

all i can say is that we should be worrying about the number 1 pick. Winning games like we did on the weekend against Brisbane gives the club a far better image..going into games to win them. Whether we get pick 1 or pick 3 we are going to get someone good..and there isnt a difference. It's all about teaching the kid what to do, and how to play AFL football, and bailey will do that.

They're not Brothers, but even if they were, have you heard of Jim and Brian Stynes, Stephen and David Kernahan, Todd and Jay Viney, Stan and Mark Alves, Robert and Tom Flower, Darren and Damien Gaspar, and many many more...

In fact, how many AFL players have Brothers, or do you think they're all only children ?

But then there's your Danihers, Mortons, Selwoods etc

Poll is so close! Question: Why have 8 votes not been counted?

Amazing to think that one less win in 2007, and we could have them both.

Anyway, bring on trade week and the draft.

I voted Naitanui before I'd seen him play. I'd change to Watts if I could.

Watts. I'm more certain of it with each day.