Rogue 585 Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 And that's stumps on Day 1! http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/engine/match/566929.html Watson 109 Rogers 75 Clarke 62 Cowan 58 Smith 21* Hughes 10* Good to see us hitting some form leading into the Ashes, all be it again weak opposition. The big thing to look forward to on Day 2 is the battle of Bird & Harris with the ball to see if either of them can put pressure on Siddle for the 3rd bowlers spot? Apparently Cowan struggled (his strike rate indicates that's right) before running Clarke and himself out, while Smith batted well. Pretty interesting to see who will play in the first Test. Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 Apparently Cowan struggled (his strike rate indicates that's right) before running Clarke and himself out, while Smith batted well. Pretty interesting to see who will play in the first Test. Very true. Australia ended up making 4/396dec Watson 109 Rogers 75 Smith 68* Clarke 62 Cowan 58 Hughes 19* Worcestershire currently 7/246 Bird 4/38 from 20 overs! Agar 2/79 Faulkner 1/55 Both Smith & Bird putting their hands up for a birth in the 1st test! Smith to bat at 6 with one of Cowan or Khawaja to bat at 3 and Bird as the 3rd quick after Pattinson & Starc to bowl into the breeze??? Quote
jazza 1,323 Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) well time in the middle is done plenty of overs have been available some players have been there long enough no excuses first test btw if they take an average no6 who can bowl ,then they have to take 4 quicks Edited July 4, 2013 by jazza Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 Stumps Day 3 Australia 4/396dec Watson 109 Rogers 75 Smith 68* Clarke 62 Cowan 58 Hughes 19* Worcestershire 284 Bird 4/48 (25 overs) Faulkner 2/57 (14.1) Harris 2/65 (21) Agar 2/79 (23) Australia 5/344dec Clarke 124 Hughes 86 Smith 43 Cowan 34 Rogers 26 Agar 10* Faulkner 7* Watson DNB Worcestershire 1/64 Agar 1/16 (7) If it wasn't certain before then it certainly is now that Hughes is a lock to play the first test. Harris getting a couple of wickets to wrap the innings up also keep him in contention for the final qucik bowling spot with Bird & Siddle. Then there's the big question of who will bat at first drop and at 6 out of Cowan, Smith, Khawaja, Faulkner (allrounder) and of course Warner? Anyone elses guess is as good as mine! Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 Stumps Day 3 Australia 4/396dec Watson 109 Rogers 75 Smith 68* Clarke 62 Cowan 58 Hughes 19* Worcestershire 284 Bird 4/48 (25 overs) Faulkner 2/57 (14.1) Harris 2/65 (21) Agar 2/79 (23) Australia 5/344dec Clarke 124 Hughes 86 Smith 43 Cowan 34 Rogers 26 Agar 10* Faulkner 7* Watson DNB Worcestershire 1/64 Agar 1/16 (7) If it wasn't certain before then it certainly is now that Hughes is a lock to play the first test. Harris getting a couple of wickets to wrap the innings up also keep him in contention for the final qucik bowling spot with Bird & Siddle. Then there's the big question of who will bat at first drop and at 6 out of Cowan, Smith, Khawaja, Faulkner (allrounder) and of course Warner? Anyone elses guess is as good as mine! Yep, there's 2 spots in the top 6 up for grabs. Clarke, Hughes, Watson and Rogers are in you'd reckon. If I was to hazard a guess, I think Khawaja will bat at 3 and Smith at 6. But who knows? Swann picked up another 5 wicket haul in England's warm up game so the selectors might go more right handers in the line-up. That strengthens Smith's cause. If Bird gets wickets again tonight he might be in. However, it would be a brave move to not pick Siddle. A fresh Siddle to come in for the 2nd or 3rd Test may not be such a bad idea though. The warm up games have been beneficial on an overall basis. Clarke rapid fire ton last night is terrific news as well. Quote
jazza 1,323 Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) Wish someone could rread the minds of the selectors Macca, would be amazing to see how they justify some of their decisions. I agree re: Warner, will be very tough to justify his selection. My gut for the first test XI is telling me it might be along the lines of: Rogers Watson Cowan Clarke* Hughes Khawaja +Haddin Siddle Starc Pattinson Lyon With both Harris & Bird stiff to miss out. I know Jazza you're keen for a 4 pronged pace attack, but I doubt the selectors will go that way, but who on earth knows??? yep, about the same, only diff is I don't want a spinner that cant spin don't want 4 quicks , but think its a must Edited July 5, 2013 by jazza Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Final days play effected by rain. Worcestershire 2nd Innings 5/274 Faulkner 2/21 (17 overs) Harris 2/60 (19) Agar 1/86 (27) Didn't get the result which is disapointing but a good hit out all the same. Harris, Bird & Faulkner all took 4 wickets for the match each and Agar 3 so we're probably no closer to seeing who gets the final bowlers spot. Rock, paper, scissors championship between Harris, Bird, Siddle & Faulkner maybe to determine? Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,365 Posted July 6, 2013 Author Posted July 6, 2013 Final days play effected by rain. Worcestershire 2nd Innings 5/274 Faulkner 2/21 (17 overs) Harris 2/60 (19) Agar 1/86 (27) Didn't get the result which is disapointing but a good hit out all the same. Harris, Bird & Faulkner all took 4 wickets for the match each and Agar 3 so we're probably no closer to seeing who gets the final bowlers spot. Rock, paper, scissors championship between Harris, Bird, Siddle & Faulkner maybe to determine? Can't see Faulkner making it. Siddle will probably get the nod because of his work horse capacity but does he move the ball enough on English pitches?The noise is also that Nathan Lyon gets a nod. The only other omission I'd like to see is Inverarity. Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,365 Posted July 6, 2013 Author Posted July 6, 2013 Fascinating reading Fawad Ahmed's journey from terrorist target to Test cusp 1 Quote
titan_uranus 25,252 Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 The news continues to indicate that Warner's going to play the first Test - e.g. http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/story/648105.html Disgraceful, if true. Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Wonder how Smith, Khawaja and Faulkner feel if he does play as they're the three that will likely miss out if Warner gets the no 6 spot. I reckon Cowan will get first crack at 3. Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Wonder how Smith, Khawaja and Faulkner feel if he does play as they're the three that will likely miss out if Warner gets the no 6 spot. I reckon Cowan will get first crack at 3. Interesting article about Lehmann keeping England in the dark re our selected side ... ... Australia coach Darren Lehmann keeps England guessing over likely batting order for first Ashes Test The only guide has been Lehmann claiming that Shane Watson and Chris Rogers would open the batting but captain Michael Clarke even refused to confirm that. "I don't think I've ever said I'd prefer to be at five," said Clarke. "I've batted four my whole career in first-class cricket, batted five for Australia the past couple of years and had a bit of success there, but I've said for a long time I'll bat wherever suits the team, and this series will be no different." This was the 'likely' team listed ... it does back up your team somewhat (with Cowan at no.3) I tend to agree with you now re Cowan. We need stability at the top of the order and if Clarke does bat at no.4, we don't want him exposed too early. Shane Watson Chris Rogers Ed Cowan Michael Clarke © Phil Hughes Dave Warner Brad Haddin James Pattinson Peter Siddle Mitchell Starc Nathan Lyon. Quote
jazza 1,323 Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 getting excited? been saving up brownie points for this, hope its worth it Quote
H_T 3,049 Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 The news continues to indicate that Warner's going to play the first Test - e.g. http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/story/648105.html Disgraceful, if true. Interesting. I see Whateley says he should come in too if we're going to win the Ashes. Does this mean the penalty is higher if you don't hand in an essay, rather than punch someone in the face? PS. Understand the different coach perspective (rules).. Anyway, it will be interesting to see if he is selected for the first test. Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Interesting article about Lehmann keeping England in the dark re our selected side ... ... Australia coach Darren Lehmann keeps England guessing over likely batting order for first Ashes Test This was the 'likely' team listed ... it does back up your team somewhat (with Cowan at no.3) I tend to agree with you now re Cowan. We need stability at the top of the order and if Clarke does bat at no.4, we don't want him exposed too early. Shane Watson Chris Rogers Ed Cowan Michael Clarke © Phil Hughes Dave Warner Brad Haddin James Pattinson Peter Siddle Mitchell Starc Nathan Lyon. Looks about right Macca. Although I feel Bird would suit the conditions down to a tee, fact of the matter is, Siddle has the runs on the board, Starc should play given Cook (our biggest target) looks to have a bit of a weakness against the left handers and Pattnson's our most dangerous bowler. As for Warner he clearly is in our best team and the no 6 position should suit him I reckon. getting excited? been saving up brownie points for this, hope its worth it Me to Jazza, just one more night to go! I've stocked up on the ice coffee's and coke zeros to get me through the 5 nights. No coffee due to the the noise the boiling kettle will make and my sleeping 10 month old in the other room. I've also worded my work colleagues up that I'll be not much use Thursday & Friday and next Monday due to the cricket so I'm set to go! Interesting. I see Whateley says he should come in too if we're going to win the Ashes. Does this mean the penalty is higher if you don't hand in an essay, rather than punch someone in the face? PS. Understand the different coach perspective (rules).. Anyway, it will be interesting to see if he is selected for the first test. It does make you wonder, despite the change in coaches, how the likes of Watson, Pattinson & Khawaja (especially Khawaja as he'll miss out for Warner) will feel if Warner's allowed to play when they missed a test for much less. Fingers crossed the noises about the team being much closer now are true and we can move forward! On another note though what are people hoping to see on Day 1? We bat first and bat out the day making 300 odd with the loss of no more then 5 wickets? Or we bowl first and knock them over for less then 200 and get to stumps 1 or 0 down for somewhere between 50-100? Both would be ideal starts to the series. Quote
jazza 1,323 Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 try doing simple exercises on the floor while watching it helps you stay awake , and is good for you 2 Quote
H_T 3,049 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 I'm hoping for either an opening stand of 150+ with the bat or a 4 or 5 wicket first session haul if we bowl. Pattinson and Starc the beneficiaries. 1 Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 On another note though what are people hoping to see on Day 1? We bat first and bat out the day making 300 odd with the loss of no more then 5 wickets? Or we bowl first and knock them over for less then 200 and get to stumps 1 or 0 down for somewhere between 50-100? Both would be ideal starts to the series. Hoping to see us bat first and continue batting until at least lunch time on the 2nd day! Further news ... Smith set to play in first Test Smith, who played the final two matches of Australia's tour of India in March, was a late inclusion to the Ashes squad but has impressed tour selectors Darren Lehmann and Rod Marsh after also batting well on the Australia A tour of England, Ireland and Scotland that preceded the Ashes series. Edit: Looks like Ashton Agar will debut as well ... live scorecard and commentary Quote
dee-luded 2,959 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) captain coook, goorn !!! Edited July 10, 2013 by dee-luded Quote
Axis of Bob 11,944 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Agar has started very well. Tall, bouncy and a really nice trajectory. Trott doesn't look that comfortable against him. Still very, very early but like promising. 1 Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Lunch Day 1 England 2/98 J. Trott 37* J. Root 30 A. Cook 13 P. Siddle 1/28 (5 overs) J. Pattinson 1/31 (9) Evenly balanced at lunch. Trott's looking good and Pattinson and Starc have both bowled well. Glad Siddle got the wicket of Root as his first 4 overs were very ordinary and I was thinking I wish Bird was playing. Agar looks a likely type, tall left arm spiner with a bit of bounce and grip. 0/8 off 3 overs and as another poster mentioned, seemed to worry Trott more then any of our seamers. First ball in test cricket was a full toss that went for 4 but steadied after that. Here's hoping for at least 3 wickets in the next session! Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Also thought I'd mention that I feel for Nathan Lyon. His form in the warm ups was solid and he did reasonably well over in India. Could still possibly play a role this series if Agar struggles or as a 2nd spinner at The Oval which does spin a bit. Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Siddle you little ripper! two wickets in the first hour after lunch, Pietersen & Trott. Thanks god we didn't play Bird!!! Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Siddle again! Gets Bell and that's 4 of our 5 wickets. To think this guy nearly didn't play in this test... Edit: Make that 5 of our 6 and that's Prior gone! England 6 down for less then 200 before tea, lets roll them for under 250 Aussies. Siddle for 8! Edited July 10, 2013 by Tall Defence Quote
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