I have been pretty open thus far on who we take. After seeing the video posted yesterday (Thanks Morton) I would have to suggest that we would be mad not to take Watts and take a risk on NN.

http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tab...px?newsId=69888

article was going well until the last paragraph

Stating the obvious. All things must be considered and it would have been remiss of them not to weigh up NicNat.

I would be totally surprised if we did not select Watts. All signs have pointed to yes. He has inferred he wants to complete year 12 in Melbourne and focus his efforts on it. The club has already been in direct contact with the family. He decides to nominate when 3 interstate clubs have picks after a Melbourne team when he didn't have to nominate until next year. NN has inferred that it would be preferable to stay in WA.

1 + 1 = 2.

Actually i would be flabbergasted if we didn't pick Watts. NN is not a markerters dream, the number one pick is. In fact, i think more supporters would excited about Watts than NicNat. Plus, regardless of who you are, I think its folly to pick someone who can't kick a football.

Stating the obvious. All things must be considered and it would have been remiss of them not to weigh up NicNat.

I would be totally surprised if we did not select Watts. All signs have pointed to yes. He has inferred he wants to complete year 12 in Melbourne and focus his efforts on it. The club has already been in direct contact with the family. He decides to nominate when 3 interstate clubs have picks after a Melbourne team when he didn't have to nominate until next year. NN has inferred that it would be preferable to stay in WA.

1 + 1 = 2.

Actually i would be flabbergasted if we didn't pick Watts. NN is not a markerts dream, the number one pick is. In fact, i think more supporters would excited about Watts than NicNat. Plus, regardless of who you are, I think its folly to pick someone who can't kick a football.

STIGGA... great POST!!!

i just hope your right.... F$%K i hope your right!!!

http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tab...px?newsId=69888

article was going well until the last paragraph

didn't know that martin was been groomed for a ruck post

i like him as a defender

didn't know that martin was been groomed for a ruck post

i like him as a defender

Article lacks merit. I doubt Martin will be a regular ruck option if Jamar and PJ are there.

This wont change in 2009 even if we get Natanui. It would highly unlikely that Niknat would be prominent in our ruck in his first year unless they were prepared to burn him out early in his career.

BTW, good video M2W. Hell, there would need to be a good footballer around for us not to Watts. Although there were some great marks by Watts, he will have to expected far greater contests in the air. But Watts looks good.

Didn't Martin ruck at Sandy?

Didn't Martin ruck at Sandy?

Was thrown into the ruck at times.

Was thrown into the ruck at times.

....at times when there were injuries and lack of other ruck options at Sandy.

i just hope that we dont pick up roughead with our pick 17 or 19. he is a standard ruckman.

i just hope that we dont pick up roughead with our pick 17 or 19. he is a standard ruckman.

I take the view that you can never have enough good midfielders.

dont want to pump up my own tyres but sometime ago i mentioned on this forum that this kid will be a surprise in the draft and it now looks likely!!! the feedback i got was extremely positive....... he can seriously mark and convert!!!!

i wouldnt be unhappy with using pick 19 on him

http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tab...px?newsId=69928

....at times when there were injuries and lack of other ruck options at Sandy.

Speaking of which I wonder how Spencer will go next season. I know of a lot of neutral observers who rate his progress and believe he could turn into a player.

dont want to pump up my own tyres but sometime ago i mentioned on this forum that this kid will be a surprise in the draft and it now looks likely!!! the feedback i got was extremely positive....... he can seriously mark and convert!!!!

i wouldnt be unhappy with using pick 19 on him

http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tab...px?newsId=69928

maybe pick 35, but pick 19 would be way too early.

Its a prospective pick, & while the upside would be good, but you'd be picking on a wing & a prayer.

Speaking of which I wonder how Spencer will go next season. I know of a lot of neutral observers who rate his progress and believe he could turn into a player.

yeah, i've heard the same too & i would've thought he'd be too much of an obscure player for people to know who he is, let alone rate him.

Surprised he wasn't mentioned in the AFL MFC draft preview though, along with PJ, the Russian & Martin.

didn't know that martin was been groomed for a ruck post

i like him as a defender

I to like Martin as a defender... but I honestly wouldn't mind him in the ruck either. He is an athletic freak for a man of his size, I could see him being a 'Dean Cox' type of ruckman after a few years of development.

I to like Martin as a defender... but I honestly wouldn't mind him in the ruck either. He is an athletic freak for a man of his size, I could see him being a 'Dean Cox' type of ruckman after a few years of development.

can he kick? whenever I watched him I thought his kickics looked a bit dodgy. mind you didn't see a lot.

can he kick? whenever I watched him I thought his kickics looked a bit dodgy. mind you didn't see a lot.

He has only played approx. 5-yrs of footy, but I thought that his composure and disposal were pretty good for the limited time he has played. Scope for improvement is there... but as we know, some players just never improve (hopefully he and all our other youngsters don't fall in that category).

I think the role he plays in '09 will depend a lot on whether Rivers comes good:

- Rivers back = Martin rotating through ruck and key positions.

- Rivers gone = Martin full-time defender

- Rivers back = Martin rotating through ruck and key positions.

- Rivers gone = Martin full-time defender

Rivers forward = Martin full-time defender.

As for WattsVison. Yummy (in a non homosexual way).

dont want to pump up my own tyres but sometime ago i mentioned on this forum that this kid will be a surprise in the draft and it now looks likely!!! the feedback i got was extremely positive....... he can seriously mark and convert!!!!

i wouldnt be unhappy with using pick 19 on him

http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tab...px?newsId=69928

i dont want to deflate your pumped up tyres but you were also the one that said naitanui is coming to melbourne

I to like Martin as a defender... but I honestly wouldn't mind him in the ruck either. He is an athletic freak for a man of his size, I could see him being a 'Dean Cox' type of ruckman after a few years of development.

Like your train of thought and would love to see that happen, but a 'Dean Cox type of ruckman' is a big call IMO.

Dean Cox dominates the AFL in terms of ruckwork. All Australian. So that would have to be the level for Martin to get to in your opinion. Long way to go!

i dont want to deflate your pumped up tyres but you were also the one that said naitanui is coming to melbourne

:lol: :lol:

i dont want to deflate your pumped up tyres but you were also the one that said naitanui is coming to melbourne

And under another name is saying that ricciutto is coming to melbourne.

And under another name is saying that ricciutto is coming to melbourne.

I highly doubt Y_M and Goose is the same person. Y_M is a great poster wether you like him or not, great comedic value how he gets people stirred up time and time again.

Surprised he wasn't mentioned in the AFL MFC draft preview though, along with PJ, the Russian & Martin.

He is only a rookie who is raw with potential. Barring injuries I would be surprised if he got a run before mid 2010.

I highly doubt Y_M and Goose is the same person.

With good reason too.

Like your train of thought and would love to see that happen, but a 'Dean Cox type of ruckman' is a big call IMO.

Dean Cox dominates the AFL in terms of ruckwork. All Australian. So that would have to be the level for Martin to get to in your opinion. Long way to go!

Yeah, I know what you mean... I probably was a bit over the top in the comparison with Dean Cox, but I think Martin could play that 'extra midfielder' role that Cox plays, not be just another lumbering ruckman.

Athletically I reckon he would be better than Cox, and I think that we saw enough last season to suggest that there is a reasonable base to work from in regards to decision making, composure, and skill execution. I rate the kid highly, and hopefully he can keep improving on what he showed last season.

Anyway, apologies for hi-jacking the thread... back to Jack Watts. I was on the Nik Nat band-wagon, but after seeing the draft camp results of both he and Watts, I am well and truly in the Watts court now. Hopefully he can be our first fully fledged superstar in years