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Players like Pendlebry/Rioli/L Jetta all have similar physiques (maybe not as tall) as Watts. Have a look at the way they attack the footy, they're in a different league. Great clubs continually look to improve their list, if trading off any combination of Watts/Howe/DawesToumpas with draft picks netted us a Blicavs and a gun mid it would be hailed as a recruiting masterstroke and those that were traded out would soon be forgotten. Whilst the win against the Bulldogs was a good one(not many on here had faith) it was against another young up and coming side who are fast coming back to the pack. Only three teams are any chance of winning it this year and as we found out prior to the Bulldogs game we are s long way from competing with them. But stuff it lets make no trades at years end because our list is full of 1-natural competitors and 2- people who can use the footy.

I don't work in an office I work in construction, I've worked with blokes who have nearly died, one bloke has lost his right arm another bleeding on the brain and possible limited mobility for the rest of his life. Sorry what was your point again?

You can't have some of your highest earners playing in the VFL. Since when does one game define a career after years of sub standard performances.

I think you'll find the club is no longer handing out buckets of cash to underperforming players. Some will find this hard to take and look elsewhere.....good luck with that.

We are talking about elite sportsman playing an elite game. They put their hands up for the big dollars, criticism whether it be constructive or not comes with that.

Grimes is contracted until the end of next season.

So were drafting playing natural born competitors as opposed to those asking to be dropped. Yesterday's win was great but as I've mentioned earlier we are a still a club where it seems certain players choose which games they'd like to get up for. Every player now has his is own thread. We all witnessed the previous three weeks, so nothing's changed is the sense we are still 2 draft/trade periods away from consistently performing. If I was Roos i would be pumping up players tyres as well in order to bump up any potential trade value because I find it difficult to believe the coaching group as a whole accept the performances of certain individuals over the three weeks prior to the Bulldogs game.

Who is Olisik for $500.

I was just reading the "priority pick" thread over breakfast, and this gold from someone who will remain nameless "can't see us winning to many more games"

My $15 multi is still live. Tipped the first 8. Got port.

I traded VB out of my SC team this week.

Well I bagged Fitzy so that makes us even.

Hands up who said we wouldn't win.

Two multis still in play, have the first 7, taken this game each way and Port. Go you good thing.

I like it. Sad thing is many don't see Grimes and Watts as fringe players. Last nights game showed they don't have it in them, more than enough chances, must go. I'd even sound out a Lions/Carlton with regards to Dawes, but I think we'll be stuck with him next year.

2nd word 2nd paragraph "leaders", anyway that's neither here or there.You make a great a great point "we can't replace them with more kids", I agree but we need to trade them in order to free up some cash to make a play for players in the 22-24 age bracket.

Im not sure what category you put some of those players into, leaders/established or both? WYL summed it up last night "we are light years away from competing like that". We have have 1st year players like Angus and Hogan leading by example. We've had to bring in the likes of Cross and Vince to lead by example. This years trade period looms as one of the crucial for us. Finally under Roos we've drafted some quality players. Players who are competitors and players who can use the footy. It's time to let go, we need to move on the last of the mentally and physically weak players. It has to happen this year.

Yes but because Vince can also use the footy it will keep Bont accountable.

True, but it was still good. The point I was making "why aren't we doing it" or tackling like Armitage did. Some would have us believe we should be thankful some even dare lay a tackle.

I would like to think Frost is part of that nucleus.

ill 2nd that.

If anyone didn't see the Burgoyne tackle last night do yourself a favour. The best thing about was ITS IN THE BLOODY RULES. We are a pathetic tackling side, when an effective tackle is laid the player being tackled should be able to dispose of the ball.

I like Vince on the Bont, VB in the guts. If there's any chance we can play with some intensity we are a chance, whilst there's some passengers in the side there's enough talent out there to win if they play as they're instructed to.

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A swap of positions for Frost / TMac and your on to something. Note Trenners still an unknown. Looks to have the makings of an accountable team.