spirit of norm smith

@Whispering_Jack I have done a starter phantom draft under topic “2023 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch”. Happy to bring it across to this for easier discussion.

I think Sanders is a seriously good ballwinner, classier and more skilled (just imv). With Leake, totally agree on his versatility and ability to do something extra. That’s why I likened him to a Trent Rivers type. And he’s got the energy factor which readily translates him into AFL mode.

Interesting. Thanks @FrothiesLiam He looked good for the Allies but in the shadows of so many other young stars in the Allies squad. Imv Leake does have that Trent Rivers type energy about him. But given comparing class and skill, I’d still prefer Sanders.

We might just miss Zakostelsky. Would be a bonus pickup if he’s available and we use our pick.

3rd round as clubs may start to pass or pickup some smokies or state league players. Some roughies from here that could be drafted, rookies or miss out. Hawks and Bulldogs picks lost or push back due to father son picks 44- Syd. Ashton Moir 45- NM Shaun Mannagh 46- Freo Aiden O’Driscoll 47- BRIS. Jack Delean 48- BRIS Will Brown 49- Haw. Tarkyn O’Leary 50- *GWS Harvey Thomas. academy 51-*Syd . Caiden Cleary. academy 52- WB Kane McAuliffe 53- NM Sam Clohesy 54- WCE. Luke Lloyd 55-Haw. Ry Cantwell 56- *BRIS. Patrick Snell. academy 57- GWS Phoenix Gothard 58- Freo Kade De La Rue 59- ESS Tyson Sruk 60- Haw Lachie Hosie

2nd round With assumption that GCS picks now all gone 29- WCE Lance Collard 30- GEE George Stevens 31- Carl Logan Morris 32- Rich. Luamon Luai 33- BRIS Joel Freijah 34- Ess. Tew Jiath 35- Coll. Angus Hastie 36- Freo. Koen Sanchez 37- ESS. Billy Wilson 38- WCE Nathan Philactides 39- Bris. Will Dawson 40- Stk. Cooper Simpson 41- Rich. Zane Zakostelsky 42- MELB. Taylor Goad 43- GWS. Harvey Johnston

Rough early walk through in 1st round (no inside intel like Cal) 1- WCE. Harley Reid 2-*GCS Jed Walter gcs academy gift 3- NM Coby Mckercher 4- NM Zane Duursma afl gift 5- HAW Dan Curtin 6- WB Nick Watson 7- MELB Ryley Sanders 8- *GCS Ethan Read gcs academy gift 9- GWS Caddy 10- GEE Connor O’Sullivan 11- *GCS Rogers gcs academy gift 12- ESS Darcy Wilson 13- ADEL James Leake 14- MELB Caleb Windsor 15- Syd. Koltyn Tholstrup. 16- Stk Ollie Murphy 17- ADEL Riley Hardeman 18- NM Arie Schoenmaker 19- *WB Croft father son 20- GWS Clay Hall 21- NM Will Green 22- NM Archer Reid 23- *Haw Will McCabe 24- Coll. Harry DeMattia 25- ADEL Mitchell Edwards 26- STK. Archie Roberts 27- *GCS Will Graham gcs academy gift 28- Carl. Charlie Edwards

Yes in the highlights. Wider viewing suggests inconsistency and sometimes hacks it. In fairness in winning the contested footy, he’s under pressure.

We can grab Harry in 2030 when Clarry moves to the forward pocket. Similar type. Inside mid. Contested footy. Burst from the pack. Quick handball. Disposal needs improvement!!!

Still unclear how BBB is going to get on the park for 12+ games in 2024. He was the forgotten man in 2023 with his marking, leading and accuracy. Media ignored the fact that he was out and it reduced our forward line potency. His knee injury has been long term issue and we hope we can continue. If not, list spots are too precious.

key defenders: May Petty* Tomlinson (Adams) tall defenders: Lever, D.Turner, Joel Smith* med/sml/running defenders: Rivers, Bowey, Salem, Mcvee inside Mids: Petracca, Oliver, Viney, Brayshaw, Sparrow, Laurie outside Mids: Langdon, Hunter, Woey jnr, Billings (Howes) key forwards: JVR, Petty*, BBB#,Tmcd# , Schache, Fullerton (Jefferson) tall forwards: Fritsch, Joel Smith*, Melksham# (Sestan) small forwards: ANB, Pickett, Spargo, Chandler, McAdam , (ANW) Rucks: Gawn (Verrell) (Farris-White) - plus add 4 more players for 44. (Draft and rookie draft). - plus SSP player in preseason as injury replacement for Melksham.

Yes surprised but not surprising. Had interrupted year with injury. Looked okay but I think he would need a preseason to really show his capabilities. Tough world of AFL for lots of young blokes at this time of year.

Spot on

Yes this is a really well thought out walk through. Can’t argue with many inside the top 15. If we got Sanders and Windsor, imv it would be a big win for the Dees.

Ditto

Tyla Hanks. She’s a star ❤️❤️❤️

Caddy has the x-factor but seems to go missing through the matches. Not sure he’s a fit for us given we have medium tall forwards already. But I’ll say, when he’s good though, he’s very good.

@adonski”Sanders looks like he'll be a good player but doesn't provide any real point of difference, doesn't look like he can play anywhere else other than midfield either”. That’s because he’s a midfielder. Class. Smart. Skilled. We don’t want him anywhere else. We have plenty of hybrid small half forwards or small half backs. We need a potential A grader young midfielder coming through. Everybody knows I am picking Sanders at 6 if available (or Curtin) and either OSullivan or Wilson at 11 if available.

Crows fan site getting excited that Sanders will fall to them. ‘Tell em they’re dreamin’ 🤣🤣🤣

I’d be totally amazed if we passed on Sanders if he was available. He’s exactly what we need. Skilled smart pacy mid.

1. Harley Reid (Mid/Fwd) - Vic. WCE 2. Jed Walter * (Key Fwd - Vic). GCS 3. Zane Duursma (Mid/Fwd - Vic). NMFC 4. Colby McKercher (Mid - Tas). NMFC 5. Nick Watson - (Small Fwd Vic). HAW 6. Daniel Curtain - (Key Def/Fwd WA) WB 7. Ryley Sanders (Mid - Tas) MEL 8. Nate Caddy - (Key Fwd/Mid - Vic) GWS 9. Ethan Read * (Ruck - GC). GCS 10. Connor O'Sullivan (Key Def/Fwd - Vic) GEE 11. Caleb Windsor (Mid - Vic) ESS 12. James Leake (Def- Tas). ADEL 13. Jordan Croft ** (Key Fwd - Vic) 14. Jake Rogers * - (Mid - GC) 15. Darcy Wilson - (Mid/Fwd - Vic) MEL That would work nicely … although Ollie Murphy might also come into contention at 11,12,15.

@Lord Travis ditto from me - add two of the classiest running midfielders in the draft with good pace and skill (Sanders and Wilson 👏👏)

Target is definitely Ollie Florent. Runs strongly and skill is above average. Throw a minimum 4-5 year contract and see if there’s a bite.

key defenders: May, Petty*, Tomlinson (Adams) (K.Turner) tall defenders: Lever, D.Turner, Joel Smith* med/sml/running defenders: Rivers, Bowey, Salem, Mcvee inside Mids: Petracca, Oliver, Viney, Brayshaw, Sparrow, Laurie outside Mids: Langdon, Hunter, Woey jnr, Billings (Howes) key forwards: JVR, Petty*, BBB#,Tmcd# , Schache, Fullerton (Jefferson) tall forwards: Fritsch, Joel Smith*, Melksham# (Sestan) small forwards: ANB, Pickett, Spargo, Chandler, McAdam , (ANW) Rucks: Gawn (Verrell) (Farris-White) - plus add 3 more players for 44. - plus SSP player in preseason as injury replacement for Melksham.

I made the number 24 famous at the combine Tooronga Malvern. Perhaps the worst player to wear it !!!