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SOLUTIONS NEEDED. 2 JUNE 2024. Memo to Goody
spirit of norm smith replied to spirit of norm smith's topic in Melbourne Demons
Quick list update and revision key defenders: May, Petty, Tomlinson, Adams tall defenders: Lever, D.Turner, Hore. med/sml/running defenders: Rivers, Bowey, Salem, Mcvee, Howes inside Mids: Petracca, Oliver, Viney, Sparrow outside Mids: Langdon, Woey jnr, Windsor key forwards: JVR, Jefferson, Fullarton , Kentfield tall forwards: Fritsch, Sestan small forwards: ANB, Pickett, Chandler, Throlstrup, AMW, K.Brown Rucks: Gawn Verrell thats 33 End of 24- retirements: TMCD, Melksham, BBB Delist: Schache, JS29, Farris-white Must be delisted ( but probably won’t): Hunter, Spargo, McAdam, Laurie , Billings. Offer nothing. -
SOLUTIONS NEEDED. 2 JUNE 2024. Memo to Goody
spirit of norm smith replied to spirit of norm smith's topic in Melbourne Demons
Melbourne coach Simon Goodwin has promised a forensic deep dive into the biggest defeat of his time in charge and the inconsistencies that are hurting his team. The Demons suffered a 92-point hiding from an inspired Fremantle at Alice Springs’ Traeger Park on Sunday to tumble six spots to 10th They have now lost three of their past four matches, with the sole win in that period to a St Kilda side on track to finish in the bottom four. This result comes a fortnight after a six-goal loss to West Coast. The key statistics told the ugly story for Melbourne, with the Dockers dominating the Demons in inside 50s (68-37), clearances (48-23, including 22-10 out of the centre) and contested possessions (138-96). Fremantle still managed to out-tackle Melbourne by one, and took 46 more marks with an expert game of keepings-off that propelled them into sixth place. Goodwin did not mince his words afterwards, admitting the Demons were “obliterated in every phase”. “That’s about as bad a performance as you can get, and it’s one we certainly won’t tolerate,” Goodwin said. “There are inconsistencies in our game and that trend’s been there for a little while now, and we understand there are elements within our method that aren’t right.“But the inconsistencies, not only from week to week, are concerning, and we’ll look into the ‘why’ because that performance is clearly completely unacceptable in where we want to be as a team – and I know our supporters would want more.” Goodwin was also critical of his players’ execution, particularly the turnovers down back, including a horror Trent Rivers switch that gifted Fremantle one of their five first-quarter goals, after the Demons kicked the opening two of the match. “Our contest was poor, our work-rate was poor, [and] our ability to deal with pressure was poor, so they’re all things we’ve got to work on,” he said. “You put that together with our ball use, and it’s just nowhere near the level that it needs to be … [but] you have got to give Freo credit. They played a really impressive, intense game with high pressure, and executed with the ball incredibly well.” Goodwin said the investigation into what was going wrong would be a “collaborative approach”, but that they would not wallow for too long ahead of a King’s Birthday clash with a Collingwood team equally in need of a win. “We’re a proud team, and that performance will certainly hurt us internally, but footy doesn’t allow you to be hurt for too long,” he said. “You’ve got to hurt, and you’ve got to respond – and that’s what we’ll be looking to do next week. This competition doesn’t wait for you, so we’ll go after what we need to next week. But in the background, we’ll keep looking at how we become better at what we do because at the moment, it’s nowhere near the level it needs to be.” Melbourne 7.7 (49) v Fremantle 22.9 (141) -
Welcome to Demonland: Shane McAdam
spirit of norm smith replied to FrothiesLiam's topic in Melbourne Demons
It’s amazing. All of McAdam Schache Billings Hunter Laurie offer nothing. Nothing. They take spots off other young developing players. If it wasn’t for contracts, they’d all be delisted at seasons end. Surely. -
Welcome to Demonland: Shane McAdam
spirit of norm smith replied to FrothiesLiam's topic in Melbourne Demons
Demons tabled an attractive three-year contract offer for the 28-year-old. WTF. THREE YEARS. He is injury prone. 50 games in 6 years at Crows. That is poor business. Future 2nd rounder. Ouch. Tim Lamb. 🤢🤢🤢Pants pulled down. -
SOLUTIONS NEEDED. 2 JUNE 2024. Memo to Goody
spirit of norm smith posted a topic in Melbourne Demons
Hi all. 2 June 2024. Unbelievably after our 2021 premiership 🏆 and talk of a Demons Dynasty, the Dees have been smashed by Freo (by 92 points). Our 3rd loss in 4 weeks. We now sit 10th. It was a humiliating loss. Beaten all over the ground. Zero winners. Zero. We looked slow and uncompetitive and incapable of successful transition of the footy. Our contested footy and stoppages are embarrassing. Our forward line was led by two defenders trialling as forwards. The loss comes two weeks after being beaten by 6 goals to cellar dweller Eagles. Do we panic? Well we might. But footy can be a simple game. Simple. We forget how sport can be over analyzed and players confident eroded by the lack of strategy and skill. How do we respond ? Here’s some easy thoughts from a humble 48 year supporter and former suburban footballer. Memo to Goodwin. Step 1/STOP THE OVERHANDBALLING Players are scared to kick it. We run it until it’s into trouble. Opponents are sweating on us to make the mistakes It’s so predictable. Backline hardball mistakes are shockers. Easy goals. Players under zero pressure handball to players under pressure Step 2/ KICKING. AUSSIE RULES FOOTBALL. Note to all. skills skills and skills. When free, use you CORRECT kicking leg. Lazy foot skills often on display and turnovers. Our skills under zero pressure have desserted us. It’s horrible. Step 3/ STOP LAZY PLAY STOP SLOW & WIDE & BORING FOOTY Scared footballers take easy 15 metres sideways kicks , even when running through the midfield MOVE THE BALL QUICKLY WITH INTENSITY BE BRAVE NOT SCARED!! Step 4/ STOP TURNING BACKS AND FORWARDS INTO MIDS (RECRUIT MIDS) The engine room is so critical. It all starts in the middle. Real quality mids are the stars. Even with a generation champion Ruckman, our mids are losing big time. No more Riv or Kozzy experiments. We need them doing what they do best. Kozzy kicking goals Riv being courageous and defending for his life Recruit mids. We have enough backs and forwards- talls mediums smalls. Why are trying to turn small forwards into mids. Stop It Step 5/ our Premiership defence. May. Lever. Petty. RETURN PETTY TO DEFENCE. He looks a broken player. He has lost confidence. The forward experience is over. Step 6/ GOALKICKING GOALKICKING GOALKICKING it’s so important but appears worse than ever Players trying screw kicks on their wrong foot … why? why it’s horrendous !!! Step 7/ STOP GUARDING GRASS The zone gets undone by ball movement and run and chip and mark footy Freo destroyed the zone Man up Run to be accountable and responsible Step 8/ STOP RECRUITING UNNEEDED PLAYERS IN THEIR DECLINE Hunter. Billings.McAdam. Schache. Why ? List cloggers. Why? Hunter and Billings were taking salary cap dramas off other clubs Stop now !! We attracted Langdon, Hibberd, Lever, May, Melksham. Find those players again. Find the free agents. Find the players with upside. Step 9/ TACKLING. TACKLING. STOP THE PLAYER. MAKE IT COUNT. Too many games see our players failing to stop Aside from JV7, our entire midfield lacks defensive pressure and shutting down opponents Step 10/ DISCIPLINE AND DESPARATION. Dees have zero smothers zero blocks zero little extra non stats hard work showing out. It’s a comfort zone. The desperation is non existent. Third efforts rare, very rare. The #Freo92 loss hurts. Really hurts. We are now seemingly over the chance of another premiership and one on the MCG. The coach showed little emotion and little plan B. Outsmarted and outcoached. But we can apply the simple things. The fixes that start to rebuild. Go Dees !!!- 303 replies
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Yes that was miscalled. Bowey had 3 other shockers including the 15 metre turnover where he missed the player. He was under zero pressure and turned it over. His skills are currently overrated for what’s he is producing. Also missed tackles showing lack of physical ability so it’s compounding. Maybe leftover from his shoulder injury. Rating for Bowey today. 3/10
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Welcome to Demonland: Shane McAdam
spirit of norm smith replied to FrothiesLiam's topic in Melbourne Demons
Actually zero ruckmen on this list. Only Dees having Greg (ripper bloke and Goodys mate) Stafford. He’s got to go NOW -
Casey were poor so the cupboard is bare. Only Kolt and BBB are back in for me. Kolt as a half forward and BBB who knows how to lead even on one leg. Sestan can be given a chance as a sub. JVR back 👏👏
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No. Tried and failed. Fumbles and slips and is not composed. Little kicks are not him. He’s a HBF position. Let’s no screw up Riv like we have to Petty.
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2024 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch
spirit of norm smith replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
JT. MEMO. URGENT GET DEES SOME MIDFIELD TALENT. THREE URGENTLY NEEDED TO REFRESH AND REBUILD Mids in the draft Finn O'Sullivan - Goes pick 1-2 Levi Ashcroft - Bris father son Jagga Smith - Goes pick 3-4 Josh Smilie- goes probably pick 3-4 Tom Gross - maybe pick 6-7 who could be within our range ? Pick 8-10 Christian Moraes - Eastern ⭐️ Sid Draper- sth Adelaide Pick 11-14 Zak Johnson - Northern ⭐️ Taj Hotton - Sandringham Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland ⭐️ Sam Lalor - GWV Pick 17-18 Kade Herbert - SA Eagles Harvey Langford - Dandenong ⭐️ that’s 9 likely mids that on current draft range, could be within our draft fishing net. We need one of these. I have starred a few preferences Then somehow trade second and third round picks OR a future first 2025 draft pick TO get another 2024 first rounder. LIONS would be interested as they need points not picks. OR find a gem in the second round or third round- like how others picked Chad Warner or Rory Sloane type who goes under the radar. From the oakleigh v eastern game in April , Zane Cochrane or Patrick Retschko ⭐️(oakleigh) are two such players, as well as Cody Anderson (Eastern) Three mids please JT. -
Changes. Lots. To the non performers. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Hunter. Turner. Petty. McAdam. All to Casey. ins. BBB (one leg), Sestan , JVR, Kolt McVee May tmcd Rivers Tommo Bowey Langdon Viney Windsor Kolt JVR ANB Kozzzy BBB Fritter Gawn Oliver Trac Salem Woey Sparrow Chandler sub. Sestan
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Bowey 6!! No way. 6 missed tackles. 3 turnovers led to Freo goals. He missed a player from 15 metres away. Turnover. Freo goal. Was often lazy with tackling and disposal. Shameful today.
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Votes. Votes? Really. 92 point loss. Hard job. It was a horror show. #Freo92 6- McVee 100% efficiency. Held Walters. 8 intercept marks. Zero stupid turnovers. Tried all day 5- Viney. Tried and fumbled and fought and tackled and fumbled and tried and slipped and tried. Tried tried tried. 4- Petracca. Because he cared. Looked frustrated by teammates who guarded grass and no pressure. Kicked nice goal. 3- Gawn. Because he’s a warrior and tried all day. Freo ran him ragged 2- Langdon. Because he kicks the ball. Others just handball to no one. Tried his guts out. 1- Tomlinson. Tried all day under barrage. Kicked well. 90% disposal efficiency negative votes to the forwards Petty Fritsch McAdam Turner Chandler. negative votes to turnovers from Bowey, Salem, Riv, Sparrow who gave up the footy all day.
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Ditto ditto ditto 👏👏👏
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Goodwin turned a premiership winning defender into a hapless forward. Hes a key back. wtf Goodwin. It worked once v tigers. He’s not a key forward. Do you want him to go to the Crows. Send Petty back NOW!!! he is going back to Casey at this rate!!!
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My 3 word player analysis V Fremantle
spirit of norm smith replied to joeboy's topic in Melbourne Demons
Joeboy - perfect except for McVee. 18 possessions. 8 intercepts. 100% disposals efficiency. 7 marks. Tried his best under constant pressure. Held Walters. Walters got 2 goals from horrible Dees turnovers. Not mcvees fault. Three words. Mcvee. Tried under pressure. -
Freo too good. Run and skills. Dees were a Horror show. Guarded grass all day. No pressure at all. Nil. Zone didn't work at all. So we didn’t change. Got worse. Lost contested footy. Lost stoppages. Lost centre clearances. Overhandballing into trouble. Handballs to no one. Missed targets. Looked slow and weak. Pearce running through Hunter was symbolic. Dees had Turnovers. Turnovers. Turnovers. Thought Umps killed us though as well. Horrible. That's the summary. 😡😡😡😡😡😡Goodwin had a blank look all day. He’s a joke.
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4th qtr Lewis / Dees applying little pressure. No physical pressure. Let Freo chip and mark and chip and mark. Zone not working. Dees handball. Missed. Or to ground. Or little over the top is read and intercepted Salem. Rivers. Bowey. Lazy. Lazy. Turnovers Freo backs possesses and chip and no pressure kick it forwards. Forwards. Forwards. Forwards. Small chip handball handball caught turnover turnovers turnovers. why guard grass ??? Why ?? Why?? Zone not working ?? Goodwin. FFS. FFS. Skill execution has been horrendous. alarm bells everywhere Salem lazy. Trac lazy. Turnover
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3rd qtr first possession is a handball to no one or under pressure zone doesn’t work if they hit skills they run they mark. clearances !! Smashed. Seriously smashed. Bowey !!! LAZY. LAZY. LAZY. MISSED TARGET FROM 10 metres. Turnover. Goal Freo. missed tackles. Can’t hold them !!! Dees look hopeless with the footy. Indecisive!!! Lack skill.
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Midfielder recruiting has been poor. We have picked up half forwards and small forwards and half backs and half backs and defenders and tall forward or part time ruck forwards. Trying to fix things in other areas Agree @dazzledavey36 👏👏👏 Why rotate players who ARE NOT natural mids? Kozzy. Riv. Sparrow. Better in other positions. Sparrow was a half back as a junior who has been turned into a cog behind our 3 champs. Offers little in pace or skill. Heart yes. Spargo. Laurie. Why extend them ? They are small part time forwards with little to offer versus other small forwards JV, Trac and Clarry now getting beaten by younger models. Other young mids like Serong/Brayshaw/Young. Why recruit Billings? Why recruit Hunter ? Downward spiral small weak players. JT must be given some direction. We need 4x young mids in the national draft. Seriously there’s quality youngsters. Skill. Skill. Skill. Pace.
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2nd qtr Turnovers. So lazy. Salem shocking turnovers. Missed target x2 led to goals to Freo. Why is he even in. Lazy player. Switkowski. Salem runs off and gets caught out as a non defender!! Poor Contested possession - Freo +28!! stoppages Freo +7 (5-12) forward turnovers dees 7 score nil forward turnovers Freo 13 goals 8 Hunter - 2 missed tackles weak Petty is nothing can’t mark can’t tackle Turner gives nothing out marked and out run by defenders Sparrow Rivers fumbles Sparrow on Young young giving him a bath Trac 30 metre angle - left foot snaps wtf !!! Use right foot Freo kick run mark skills 😡😡 Best players NIL coach Nil
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Yes yes yes. Handball into trouble. So 2011!!! Overhandballing again. Goodwin is fuc-Jed as a coach.
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Q1 Poor first qtr. poor turnovers Slow slow slow Turnovers. It’s lazy play. Rivers. Bowey. Sparrow. Invited Freo in . Waiting for our mistakes - mistakes mistakes more mistakes Langdon not ever chasing McAdam could not kick 30 metre !!! Sparrow fumbles. Fumbles. ANB fumbles. Fumbles. Oliver pick it up Oliver in middle free free turns kicks it 20 metres sideways and not attack !! Lazy - why not attack !!! Pickett. Forget the left foot when you are free. Grubber to nothing !! WHATS NEEDED … SIMPLE SO [censored] SIMPLE MOVE THE BALL QUICKLY ATTACK NOT SUDEWAYS NOT 7 HANDBALLS TO TURNOVER - so 2011!!! coaching tips from Desanto play the percentages Take territory into forward 50 kick to field position - not wide Quick decision making 👏👏👏👏
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Missed kicks. Missed handballs. Dry conditions. Sideways. Slow. Skills poor.
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Rivers kick to May ffs. 🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔