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I would assume chris fagan will want to have a talk with rockliff before any deal was done. whether that is with melbourne or someone else. I would love to know why the lack of interest in him? what does every other club seem to know about him that rules him out.

isnt there a couple more delisted free agent trading periods?

we play the players that are playing the best at all time, no matter who they are. If the above drafting does materialise then we will have reaosonable depth across most areas, so players will know they have to compete to keep a place in our side. We will have injuries from time to time and may need to rest players, so apart from Gawn and possibly Hogan we should have most positions covered. so our remaining draft picks this year need to address that.

collingwood maybe willing to give us Howe in return for garland or dunn

we need to try to get rockliff, hibberd and lewis deals done if we can. loosing a first draft pick next year is not a major concern, if we have a good year next year our first draft pick would probably be in the early 20's by the time the afl finishes giving out freebies to all and sundry. Anyone you take in the draft is a possible future champ, but as our previous drafting experience has shown it is not something we have excelled at. Getting into the finals will make us a more attractive destination for out of contract players and just players wanting to leave GWS and other clubs, Hawthorne and Geelong have both done extremely well with limited draft pick by trading, that is what we need to to. If we are successful and have greater depth then we are also likely to additional players who cannot get a game in our seniors who we will be able to trade for picks, etc.. I think those 3 players would add the grunt we need to set our team up for finals success.

the only risk is 1. if the rumour is correct and 2. the person spreading the rumour is actually connected in the way they say they are

people worried about Rockliff's rep, yet not sure anyone understands what that reputation is for, or how it came about, or even if he recognises he needs to make changes and moving to another club could be part of that. As I recall we got garlett cheap because he had a bad rep, maybe we should throw him back.

and everyone elses, not sure we will have an early enough pick to get him, looks a likely type though Ruckman and even backup ruckman seem to be in great demand at the moment, so teams will be looking at all of the options, ourselves included, if we show not obvious interest then teams may let him slide hoping to pick him up with a later pick. show too much interest and they are likely to jump in before we can,

there has also been little mention us us being interested in Rockliff and lewis too, just means that we are not telegraphing our intentions to the world

Season Team # Games G B K H D M T G B K H D M T Totals Averages (per game) Career 101 51 43 1413 1280 2693 495 539 0.5 0.4 14.0 12.7 26.7 4.9 5.3 2009 Brisbane Lions 38 1 0 0 3 2 5 3 1 0.0 0.0 3.0 2.0 5.0 3.0 1.0 2010 Brisbane Lions 38 19 4 5 220 214 434 103 64 0.2 0.3 11.6 11.3 22.8 5.4 3.4 2011 Brisbane Lions 38 20 12 10 310 244 554 111 108 0.6 0.5 15.5 12.2 27.7 5.6 5.4 2012 Brisbane Lions 38 22 18 17 280 256 536 87 95 0.8 0.8 12.7 11.6 24.4 4.0 4.3 2013 Brisbane Lions 38 21 7 8 291 284 575 95 108 0.3 0.4 13.9 13.5 27.4 4.5 5.1 2014 Brisbane Lions 38 18 10 3 309 280 589 96 163 0.6 0.2 17.2 15.5 32.7 5.3 9.1 His stats seem to be reasonable will certainly add something to our midfield and potentially forward, he is still relatively young, a new start in a team that can help and support him who knows... Having Hibberd, Rockliff and Lews (if all true) come in with Melksham who has been sitting on the sidelines with a couple of end of draw picks and rookie upgrades should be enough for this year, we need to keep an eye on having some decent picks next year, as any new player we get this year is not likely to be getting a game this year with the current side and our new draftees.

maybe we can do a swap on 19 with someone for a couple of other picks one that we can then trade to meet Essendons requirements and still improve our position in another draft position.

Adding Rockliff and lewis as well as hibberd would be a fantastic. Both Rockliff and Lewis are captain/vice captain material they would add a lot of maturity and leadership to our team. The dees have often faded during games hopefully the inclusion of these guys will help other players step up so this does not happen.

I would expect the dees to have an interest in Rockliff, it would a derelection of duty not to enquire and see if we could get him. Obvious considerations as to whether we could do a deal is $'s, cost of a trade and determining if he will be able to fit into the melbourne culture, he has made mistakes, so has a lot of players, does not mean that he could not thrive in a new environment and team culture especially one going up rather than down.

I think he would be a good pickup he would give us a bit more strength while our younger fellows mature. I think he could give us the sort of experience that bernie has given us since coming over. Obviously this all comes down to price, how much is it going to cost it dollars or trade goods.

He may not want to go anywhere, but throw some big $'s at him anyway and try to entice him so at least the Swans have to pay more to keep him, that will put even more pressure on their salary cap.

the sad thing about the draft process is that the GWS will be able to continue to strip out the top players for many years to come by continuing to swapping players from the stockpile of high draft picks and continued access to their academy players. A side that finished in the finals has all of the top picks sown up once again.

a team needs to want him, how many teams are prepared to give up a first round player to get him as well as have the salary cap to pay him what he wants.

The AFL self interest in seeing the GWS and other interstate clubs flourish at the extense of the smaller melbourne clubs is clearly evident in everything they do.

I hope they do, someone has to force the draft dodgers into playing by the rules, though i suspect this is a bid by essendon to try to get a bonus from one or both of them for not bidding on the academy players.

I personnally are keen to see hibberd and Melksham playing off the half back, I still remember the days when Hass and others provided us with an attacking half back line, what he have at the moment is a defensive half backline. We struggle to get the ball out of defense and our attacks often result in turnover. We need quality delivery out of the half back line, I

I would be targetting the Suns to try to get a early draft pick they have quite a few and may want to actually swap some for either next year or more mature players to help them rise next year. I doubt they want to use all of their draft picks onh young players that would leave them with a very youthful and inexperienced team.

ok so how does one go about legally getting rid of the current afl leadership team so that we can put football back on an even keel. The current board has shown they will give favours where they want and ignore so many other areas that may have been equally as poor or more deserving of help.

Much as I would like spencer to be successful with the dees I did not see a lot in either of the VLF finals games from him, maybe he needs another ruck coach to help him along, otherwise we need to seriously start looking for a successor to max

i wonder if we looked at the various areas that each club now controls and go back over say the last 5 years at what each area produced I wonder how balanced or evenly spread the talent would be, and who would have gone where..

just wondering because the suns will have so many first round picks whether they would consider swapping one or more of those for a player like dunn, or others and our next years first round pick so that they spread the impact of having so many young first year players hit their side at once. This would give them another experienced player or two and give them another first round draft pick next year, so they wouldnt loose a whole lot on the deal.