Ted Lasso

I think perhaps Viney should have been more clear if that's what he was trying to say, using the word selfish is very pointed, and i would hope has been explained privately to Clarry. but if we assume that's the case, then the club really needs to take some responsiblity for the strategy of recruiting competitive animal ball winners who's natural inclination is to do that, it's very difficult to unlearn those habits, and one of our huge issues is that when we're under the pump, players do tend to return to their poor habits and move away from the team structure. I was in favour of letting Jack Viney walk because i felt he was the one who seemed to have the hardest time turning off the desire to attack the ball in that way, and at times the midfield structure has looked better overall without him in it, that's not to say he's not a good player, i just felt of what we had, he was the one i'd be willing to lose for a better overall balance. The talk of Clarry to Carlton may be scuttlebutt in the sense that it's unlikely to happen this year, but i do think we face a battle to keep him from 2021 onwards if we have another year like we did this year, we can't be missing finals with a full list, and i think Clarry is one of the few who, despite having a slightly down year, could walk away proud of his efforts over the season.

I reckon he'd be pretty dissapointed in Jack Vineys comments to be totally honest, calling them a selfish midfield, i don't think Oliver is a selfish player, if that's the feedback the club is giving these guys, i'd find that Staggering, Oliver is one of the best young players the club has ever had and is seemingly considering leaving because the club isn't where it should be on multiple fronts. If that isn't a good enough reason to sack Goodwin along with the performances i fear he's untouchable.

Josh Kelly and Jye Caldwell hopefully

He'd probably get a run off the bench

I reckon we've got the list, probably just need a bloke who can coach at the helm now.

Good to see some Sanity set in at NM, if you push a guy out the door you can't demand the world.

100% this and i absolutely guarantee he's not the only required player feeling this way. if we don't, not only make finals, but comfortably make finals and push hard in them in 2021. we could be in the same situation Essendon are right now.

Hawks are in the market for another Key Defender with Frawley retiring, i think this presents an opportunity to potentially float one of the McDonalds as an option for them. the recruitment of Frawley and Frost shows they don't mind turnover merchants in their D50

i'm not sure this will be well recieved but a player i think we could get for a good price who'd add to our side is Brodie Smith from the crows, good speed, a good kick and would add a new dimension to our half back line. as well as some experience. i doubt it'd cost us much to get him over and i'm sure he'd be keen to come to a club more likely to contend in finals in the back end of his career.

Would be throwing the kitchen sink at Tippa if he's open to a move.

Wouldn't mind guessing it might end up being a straight swap between Oscar McDonald and Jared Polec. North were interested in Oscar in his draft year, and given a few of their key backs are older/leaving, he'd definitely appeal.

I think this is a real opportunity to help the pies with their cap situation. i'd be offering a deal of Phillips and Miocek in exchange for draft picks and take advantage of their situation.

Would we go big for Jeremy Cameron? I think not only do we need a big forward, we need a big signing! need some way to sell some hope to members that 2021 is gunna be better.

If the Cats show an interest which i assume they will i feel like you could offer a deal like pick 23 and Pruess for their pick 16 it's not a huge upgrade but gets us back into the first round.

i'd be putting a big offer infront of Z.Merrett, i think it's unlikely he'll leave this year but lay the ground work for 2021. if the Bombers think he's definitely going to leave, they seem intent on cleaning out anyone who isn't 100% committed

I hate the PSD method for players to get to clubs, i personally would favour contracts for draftees being locked at a certain amount to close this loophole

This is just a reflection of the pure talent of the midfield i think mate, Oliver and Petracca in particular are special talents that we haven''t seen close to the best of yet. But this issue needs to be resolved ASAP. if it gets resolved even Max could go to another level again

Was definitely a down year for Clarry. but i feel like he showed positive signs in the areas the majority of people would like to see him improve. He's definitely running and carrying more, kicking more, getting forward more and i feel like his kicking is much better. I'm actually backing it to really click for him next year and will be putting some cheeky $$ on Clarry to win the brownlow in 2021. i feel like he's so close to going to the next level and even overtaking Lachie Neale.

I think it's a lot to do with Max to be honest mate, these guys are dominant mids, but i don't think we get anything like the value for Max's dominance that we should, but the reality of Max's dominance is that we set up very aggressively to win clearance and don't give ourselves much room to defend as a result, so if we lose stoppage or they get it to the outside we're under the pump. Max in my view is the single most dominant tap ruckman i've ever seen, and we should be scoring 5-6 goals per game as a result of that dominance. but the majority of his taps the players aren't reading, or aren't quite right so they're either contested or to the other side too often. I think a gun midfield/stoppage coach could tidy this up very quickly, i think this is the area, where if we get it right, we will become a top 4 side very quickly. because our backline is solid, and if we can get the ball in to our forwards 1v1 from clean clearance more regulalry, they'll be hard to stop.

I completely agree, and i think we have the list to be a top 6 team in 2021, no question. i question if we have a senior coach, FB department capable of getting consistent enough performances. i'd argue if we're not sitting firmly in the top 8 come mid season next year regardless of fixture, Simon Goodwin needs to go. Personally i'd prefer to see him go now, i think there are options in the marketplace who the majority of supporters would have more confidence in for 2021.

I don't wanna be "that guy" but i can't help but feel like this could be us in 12 months time if we don't improve in 2021. i feel like there are enough players a bit concerned about our direction now that another year without finals we could be facing some players wanting to leave

Contracted lad. Essendon wouldn't even entertain a trade, and if we somehow did get to the negotiation stage they'd want one of Petracca or Oliver for sure. much better to just keep talking to him and have a serious crack at the end of next year.

Not too sure mate but i was told it was a combination of the trade value, and the contract % paid by each club. I think North would like us to pay all or most of his contract and i reckon you're right they'd want our pick 23 or whatever it is and we're probably thinking more a third or fourth rounder

Mate it's strange, some of the decisions that club is making at the moment are just incredible. I personally believe when you push guys out of your club publicly you've gotta expect minimal compensation. the way the Polec Situation has gone, there is no way he's going back there. they should be happy we'll take on a part of his salary and get him off the books for them. I don't get the impression we're being unreasonable with our requests either, we just have a really clear idea what we think he's worth, and we're very interested at that price

Carlton are not going to have a fun time getting this trade done.