Ted Lasso

you can kinda look at the pro's list and i think that makes the decision pretty easy Toumpas: *quick *elite skills *leader *already played senior footy *balanced out drafting viney well *considered by many to be nearly on par with whitfield *huge upside *Big game player ( just about best on in the SANFL gf the year before drafted ) Wines *tough inside mid *solid skills ( not fantastic by any measure *leader *ready to go * already had a more highly rated inside mid in Viney, plus N.jones *hard to judge the upside of these blokes, he is already good but he might not get drastically better. in summery imo we made the correct call, i think wines will be a very good player, but i think toumpas will be a better player in time, keep in mind wines is doing well in a much better midfield group, toumpas is in possibly the worst AFL team of all time so it's really unfair to say they are on level footing on that alone, but i would say the game toumpas played against Geelong was as good or better than anything Wines has produced this year. anyways just my opinion

Yeah, it's not the end of the world, i'd be tempted to leave him in though, noone is beating down the door to get in and as long as craig sits him down and says it's okay, some very good players have done the same thing before i think he will be fine.

Poor game but give the young man the benefit of the doubt, he played very well against Geelong in horrid conditions not a week ago, and he looked pretty crook on the bench, weren't we talking at the start of the year about managing expectations on our young players? haha

He did an entire pre season up there, he should have some idea, maybe heavy legs from last week?

How can he be as good as he was against Geelong and do nothing this week? lets hope for a decent second half

might regret these comments in five years time if he becomes as good as most of us think he will.

His biggest issue was he didn't get the pace of AFL right away, not an uncommon issue and he is finally getting that and showing us why the club has considered him to be a better prospect than some really good players ( stringer, vlastian, wines, mcrae, menzel )

Bryce gibbs is a pretty handy player mate, doubt there would be another team that would not be all over him if he wanted to leave the blues, and cale morton may have just been a dud pick.

He's what 18? no need to panic.

Very confident Trengove will be fine when he gets an injury free run at it, his situation hasn't changed since we found out he had a stress fracture at the start of the year. Jimmy toumpas has really impressed me, i think he best attributes are above the shoulders in terms of helping the club, he is a very enthusiastic young man and brings alot of positive energy to the group

I am very confident at the end of their respective careers Jimmy Toumpas will have been a better player than Ollie Wines Wines was ready to go, but Jimmy was super impressive in my opinion today, tough conditions against the best opposition going and he stood up.

He is abit like Scott Pendelbury in that when he has the ball his skills mean he will be able to open sides up and do damage, Clark Dawes and Hogan are going to love seeing him with ball in hand through the middle for years to come.

id still take toumpas at 4 over ollie, good delivery to our forward setup in 2014 will highlight his value

toumpas is a much better player than wines with ball in hand, viney is a better inside mid in my opinion so we did okay there

i love the kids kicking skills, he is going to be an asset

was thrilled when we drafted toumpas, rated him equal pick 1 with whitfield, great to see him doing okay in a poor side which is never easy

Aaron davey has mick Malthouse as a mentor i know that for a fact and i know alot of other players go outside the club, i think that's just a personal choice and not really a reflection on the club, i however would be upset if watts walked, we have been pretty loyal to the bloke in terms of defending him when his form hasn't stacked up, i think most of it is just dependant on how each person perceives certain actions towards jack from the club.

i think most would just say they are sick of losing unfortunately, playing for us would be abit like standing against a wall and letting everyone throw eggs at them for a moment.

Right this second i'd say Chippa is probably on a par with jonesy as our most important players, he is a must keep from what everyone is saying the other two will take some convincing, Col has every right to use free agency and chase money or a flag i really hope we can keep watts, i think he will be a good 250 game player, hopefully we can sell him a vision of the future.

With some people that's fine, what i am saying is we are a genuine mess right now and we need to bring people to the club who have the character to guide us out of it, no use fighting tooth and nail for blokes who have no interest in being here, look at a Nathan jones, doesn't lack confidence or character.

It's a measure of character, let's be honest we don't want blokes who are going to have a sook and jump ship because it's too hard, we want blokes like Grimes, Jones, Trengove and viney who are going to work hard and have a genuine crack at turning things around.

We have three players who would all be in our best 10 players without a doubt, all could become significantly better than what they are, Frawley has been a much better player than he is so we need to sell these three guys a vision of a better future or we will lose them and noone could blame them for walking in this situation, i think we should move Neeld on, get craig or viney taking over and start a campaign to sign a big name coach, waiting is weighing the risk of a player walkout against the risk of not gaining anything from games we may gain nothing from anyway.

Carlton and Freo are certainly keen from what i have heard, not sure who the other six would be, North were in the mix last year weren't they?

I reckon more than 50% of players would show a similar stat to that though, i think watts will be a good player, for me it's keep chippa at all costs, watts second priority sylvia third, if we can keep 2 of those three that's acceptable but it will be an up hill battle.

Jones in 24-25 not 100% sure, played 140 games, our best player really greatful to have him looking at this, he could play 300 games for our club and go down as a great by the end of his career hopefully in the next 140 he plays some finals