Diamond_Jim

It is interesting that the Bulldogs are ahead of us on the 'handout list" but they can afford to field a stand alone VFL side. Perhaps MFC spends its money on other things or perhaps it is as simple as the fact that the MFC has no ground of its own on which its VFL club could play. (Although one would think there are several grounds available for sharing.)

Not an unreasonable response Stuie. I would just be happier if anyone at the EFC said "I was wrong." As you say we should all learn from this saga but the "old boys" network is hard at work to paint it as a one off that may never have even happened

I would assume that a professional sportsperson can easily keep a spreadsheet of what they are taking. Hell they measure the spoons of pasta for the dietician. They have well paid managers that can easily run these supplements by a third party if there is any concern. Remember these guys were being injected almost every day with what they cannot or would not say. Conveniently left it off their "drug" returns when tested. It goes on and on ...... They weren't lily white children that's for sure.

It's not the person.... it is the failure to take responsibility and the playing of the victim card. These guys are full time professional sportsmen. Moreover Jobe as captain was in a particular leadership role which makes the action more irresponsible. Anyway as I said about Melksham the guys have served their suspension and deserve to return if they wish. That does not mean we should fawn over them.

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Interesting snippet from the MFC article on the upcoming final: Plapp said coaching an aligned side was a tough, but rewarding job. “The biggest challenge we have is trying to spend so much time together and we’ve been able to do that in the last three weeks,” he said. “The first week of the finals is nearly the first time we actually got to train together. That’s probably one thing a lot of people on the outside wouldn’t realise about our group. It’s been a massive positive.” Is anyone aware of whether teams such as Footscray and Collingwood with integrated VFL sides do train together. Must be very helpful for consistency in game plans etc.

The idea of Etihad (Docklands) was a good one as was its location. The execution was terrible. How many mistakes can a stadium designer make not to mention the ground managers. Remember the guy that told us that it would revolutionise how we went to the footy and that we had better get used to buying tickets in advance.....no more just walking up to the gate. (I think he lasted about 6 weeks.) What I find amusing was that when the stadium was built the land was dirt cheap yet today the stadium is so built out by surrounding developments it is almost an afterthought. We were so lucky that the city fathers (and mothers) of the turn of the 20th century had the foresight to provide that magnificent precinct which is now the MCG and its surrounds.

The AFL have an option to buy Etihad. it is exercisable next year I think. Forget what radio show I was listening to but they seemed to think it a foregone conclusion that the AFL would exercise the option. Whether it would be sold for development or kept as a football stadium was the issue. Different clubs have different deals at Etihad but the ones held by the Bulldogs and probably the Saints are particularly poor.

Well said LH. Must say I watched Dunn closely last Sunday to see if he was exhibiting the 'run on" style that the MFC are now playing. Like others I did not see it. In another post someone mentioned that he was playing more of a "back stop role." Others more familiar with Casey may like to comment as to whether he has shown success at the current MFC style and if as I suspect that success is limited I see little value in retaining Dunn. The senior player one is looking for is a Heath Shaw type ie one who can take the ball, run and deliver to advantage. (Sounds a little like Lamumba but that is the land of dreams perhaps.)

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Yes ... you are correct. Missed what happened to him but I noticed he was absent in the second half and then they showed him during the final quarter in the track suit on the bench.

Salem until injured, Oliver, Dunn and a pass to Trengrove Did I miss any well performed MFC players. Not a great game by the rest. The Casey boys were very good.

Must agree on today's performance. Also his round the ground play has been almost non -existent.

Trengrove played better that quarter but still not well enough to say he has recovered to near AFL standard let alone to that of a automatic selection.

Thanks.... my TV came up with HD Melbourne but it was showing nothing. I will try 70 next time thanks again

on that note why weren't the AFL finals on HD (or were they)? Thought Ch 7 agreed to use its HD channel under last year's TV rights deal.

Well it has started Eagles declare interest in Hogan............ well send us your best and brightest Weagles.... Nic Nat and Gawn would make an interesting combo http://www.theage.com.au/wa-news/eagles-boss-declares-interest-in-demons-star-jesse-hogan-20160918-griupi.html

Thanks bjDee

Box Hill in Surrey looks like a very nice place. Apparently named after the Box trees that grow there. The man who invented television (John Logie Baird) lived there and conducted some of his experiments on the Box Hill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_Hill,_Surrey Must say I like the local Box Hill Oval (Vic)

No problem with Thompson but I think the likes of Dal Santo or even Harvey may give us more of an X factor. Hard to judge on last night's game alone but while he got several clearances I do not recall many of them being well directed clearances. More like just pumping it forward. (Understand the Crows were under extreme pressure last night so he might be forgiven.)

The SCG is so small. Thompson's first kick from the centre circle was nothing spectacular but it landed 15 metres inside the 50 metre arc. Would be a good venue for a 12-14 a side game

Agree.... we need a quiet start to the season where we can rack up 3 or 4 wins in the first five games and then move on. Freo in the West would be nice and I would not say not to Port in Adelaide (seeing we gave them home ground advantage in Alice Springs.) No fears of playing Essendon but playing them in a homecoming of the Angels scenario in the first round (probably our home game as well) would be plain dumb. To those who say we should not be afraid the simple fact is that football is a game of "inches" and there is no reason whatsoever to give your opponent one inch. We already manage that well enough by playing in Alice Springs and Darwin plus our enforced visit to the Cattery!!

Boy the Hawks are very good at judging the 15 metre kick

Jake has served his penalty and as a player he should be welcomed to the MFC. He should not be "venerated" as I am afraid will happen to those of the 34 who return to Essendon next year. Instead he should be treated as any other player pursuing a sport at an elite level. If there be anger and indignation (which is not inappropriate) it should be firmly directed at the Essendon Football Club and the AFL. It is obvious that neither of these organisations appreciate the damage that has occurred to the game not only by the drug taking itself but by the way that fact has been handled by the EFC and the AFL. If one needs evidence of the damage that an issue like this can cause you need only look at the recent Olympics. People who were once avid followers of this sports fest either turned off or watched it with suspicion. Welcome Jake. I hope you have a successful career at the MFC.