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LOL!! Not sure about that phrasing... But I fully get what you mean: men also get the jibes and insults so a DL holiday is good for anyone when the going gets a bit rough. Layzie, you are much loved on here so hopefully there isn't the need for more DL holidays🙃 Just ignore the cheap shots and those that misinterpret.

Yeah but how out of touch can they be. Maybe just sour grapes!

I agree. I have always thought they fluked the 2016 flag. Good on them. Without that he would be long gone. Since then they have yo-yoed in and out of the 8 with a good 2021 to make the GF and get smashed. Otherwise, no top 4 and no consistency in reaching or progressing thru the finals.

With you on that. They have 4 over 30 yo players in their forward line and a similar number in the back line. Too much will be left to too few. imv their midfield additions won't be enough to compensate. They hope they can copy Geelong and rest their ageing players. But they will have to win a lot of games early in the season to do that and I reckon they have two many ageing players to give them all a rest. Geelong mainly rested Dangerfield, Selwood and maybe a few others. Of course they had the luxury of a good draw and there cattery fortress. I reckon they will be in a bunch of 4--6 clubs vying for 7th/8th.

On news reports it sounded like he may not have got the contract renewal he wanted. Despite their 2016 premiership and 2021 GF they haven't been a consistent finals team. Also, last year wasn't his best in the media. Will always be their hero but could quickly become 'yesterday's man'. Reckon he needs to regularly make top 4 and contend in at least a few PF's in the next 3 years to keep his job.

Except McVee, pretty sure all are top 10 draft picks, most of them from the 2022 draft so not yet 'known'.

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I don't think they are allowed to vote for their own team or team mates. Not in his favour is whether he will play enough games. So the young fella has another fan out there.

Some interesting votes. grand-finalists-brownlow-top-eight-skippers-tips-for-2023 Oliver got the most votes (5) for the Brownlow. But as we know he has lots of opposition from team mates. The most surprising thing for me was that TWO CAPTAINS THOUGHT THE DEES WOULD MISS THE 8!!! 😐🙄😟 In what world do they live in. Big time disappointment coming their way!🙂

There is no draft to speak of for 2023 because of the 'extra' season in 2022 So the next draft of substance will be for 2024. Brisbane and Collingwood etc will get 2024 compensation picks for the loss of their players in this psp signing. They have lost experience and will want experience so draft picks in two years won't help cover the losses. The risk for us is that direct competitors (Coll and Lions) have a Tier 1 vacancy which they could use to lure one of our top Tier 2 players in the upcoming trade period. There is quite a gap in the $. They won't have worthwhile 2023 draft picks to use and are unlikely to trade players. However, it will be interesting to see if the AFL introduces the trading of future draft picks which will help Bris and Coll use their 2024 compensation picks in the upcoming trade period to replace lost experience. My guess is the AFL will, otherwise those teams will be disadvantaged for a year. So we aren't out of the woods yet...

Summary: Sydney did well in terms of quality but filled only 2 of their 5 psp spots. Ess filled 1 of 2 spots but not high quailty. Port filled their spots Hawks got 2 excellent signings (not sure how many spots they were allowed. Hopefully they perform much better this year so the AFL does not introduce more priorities for newbie teams as we will be the team most likely to suffer.

I could probably name about six regular posters and maybe a few who post occasionally. Probably 10 overall. Not many in the scheme of things. Nonetheless, kudos to all male posters😘. DL is a much nicer place than when I joined about a decade ago. Thanks guys especially those who have gone to bat for me when others have taken a variety of swipes or insults. It was especially those guys that kept me involved. Over the journey I've taken some self enforced DL holidays when it got rough. But really glad I stayed the distance.🙃🙂

Happy birthday! You were almost a teetotaler when joining DL. What has the DA done to you🙄 Have a great day! 🥂

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Thanks Andy.

Found it. (Search feature is my friend 🙃) Not sure which forum it is in... Edit: Oops, found it the General Discussion Forum. Just read the thread. Someone really ruffled @WalkingCivilWar's feathers. Not sure it is a good idea to ruffle the feathers of a 'ranga' - fiery at the best of times😍

I can't find it Andy. It was on the main Board this morning.

Can we merge this with @WalkingCivilWarthread which is also a great thread. TIA Umm, what happened to her thread? I haven't been on DL all afternoon but it seems to have disappeared from the main Forum page? 😟 Did someone derail it?

Can't disagree. The bulldogs have only a handful of 'impact' players or players that regularly and consistently hurt the opp: Bontempelli, Smith, Naughton and maybe Libertore who will soon be 31. As mentioned elsewhere, their midfield is no longer elite imv. Then they have a stack of young highly talented players with potential whose impact will wax and wane during the season. I include English in this group. I also put Treloar in this group as he is often injured. Of course, each and every one of them will have some games where they star but I doubt they can put enough together to succeed. The challenge for them is getting the max from the two groups of players while trying to build on field cohesion after all the list and position changes in the off season. Interesting that Beveridge chose to not play a scratch match. Bound to have something up his sleeve. Maybe they did a bit of experimenting but I see a need for them to experiment a lot more with their position changes and cohesion. Doubt they will make the 8. We will beat them round 1.

Count down clock: 4.5 hours to go!! 🙏🤞for us!

Context? If context is GF tickets, 1 = those with a GFG plus others; 2 = long term members (could be 20 or 25 years) plus others, 3 = Other membership types eg 3yr, GA etc.

Agreed. I usually don't indulge chat about player salaries but I could see the Rivers numbers could easily become a DL 'truth' o I was aiming to bring a bit of realism into the figures for him and put in some in perspective of the overall AFL cap allocation.

Probably not the right thread but this might be of interest to posters: https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/average-afl-player-salary-rises-to-over-400000/news-story/dfbef989ad02b5f36dcfe04f87d25316 For the average to be just over $400K a lot of players are earning much less, even allowing for rookies (if they are included) dragging down the average. and https://www.afl.com.au/news/874936/million-dollar-dozen-stars-cash-in-player-pay-hits-new-high Only about 25% of all players get over $500

Not too sure about 12-18. More 16-24

Given that Freo first offer to Acres was in the range I mentioned there doesn't seem to be a minimum. Rivers would have got a bonus for winning the premiership but not sure how much that affects future contracts. But who knows what his figure is and would we meet it? As an aside, if every player earnt a minimum of $300k that would take up about 75% of the salary cap. Doesn't leave much for the stars.