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How do you work out the neutrals? It sounded like 75% dees...

And in the VFL and AFLW to make it a quadrella of 🏆🏆🏆🏆🍾🎉🍾

Great to see Matt Rowell get back to his stellar career start after awful injury setbacks: "... putting together three brilliant performances. He had 28 disposals to stand almost one-out against Sydney, followed it with 22 against Essendon and then racked up 24, along with game highs in contested possessions (18), clearances (nine) and pressure acts (30) vs Geelong". That is an unreal set of numbers! Reckon he will give the Brownlow a bit of a shake this year. iirc mid last year someone from the club said GCS had been the hardest game. It was at Metricon where this year's game will be. I'm sure we won't take it lightly.

Oliver has a better chance with Max not playing to take votes from him. A few BOG's over the next month will go a long way to getting him home.

Yes lack of discipline was the context but I felt he didn't need to add the bit about 'handing it to them on a plate' as they also scored from our frees/50's against.

4 cheats = 4 umpires. Clearly a one-sided view of the umpiring. Even Longmire commented in his post game press conf that we got 2 goals from 50m and 3 from free kicks. Paraphrasing: "Handed them 5 goals on a platter". I thought poor form on his part even to mention that and also to not acknowledge how many they got and some of theirs were very dubious! Sour grapes!

Bigfooty A post from late last week!! That didn’t age well 🙃 Post Game, Thread Title: Done by the Demons by 50 points They were quite gracious. Not sure where the smart alecs in the preview thread are hiding. Quite fair commentary of their performance with little maligning of their players. First quarter Melbourne rebounded out the fat side at will with pace and were happy to concede clearance. Hit up the right targets and refused to kick long. 5 goals up in a flash. Well played Dees they were inspired and executed their instructions Not alarm bells but ******* cranky that we lack the hard yakka Better side won and deserved to win take nothing away Not panic stations yet. We are a good side who had a bad day and unfortunately came up against a good side who were on fire today. How often does a side get done after an easy win the week before? There's something about beating up on a weaker opponent that breeds complacency. Melbourne seemed to disproportionately take their chances. Every time we had a tiny skill error, they made us pay. Little worrying that if we are to be a top side you probably should’ve be getting touch ups on the big stage. We are spooked I reckon and could be some mental scars. Our rucks have a nasty habit of getting involved in possession chains and it either slows us down or they stuff it up They had no Gawn and Pickett also . Pretty embarrassing Odd game, didn't feel like a 50 point battering but here we are. Rolled over to at the end I’m not sure they have the mental edge either...soft unit Melbourne mids were back to their premiership best imo. Read the plays to perfection all day long. Dunno how Brisbane beat them. It’s a funny game. The Dees were so slick today. First game back there and our first real test this year...Failed big time...Maybe not a top 4 team Two players who I'm really disappointed in are Mills & Parker... While Oliver & Petracca had 15 & 16 disposals respectively by half time, Mills and Parker had 8 each. To Melbourne's credit, they were amazing. They adapted to every single thing we tried to do. We won clearances, so they pressured to force our clearances into turnovers. We started getting our defensive 50 transition game going, so they set up to shut it down... Heeney in the finals last year was pretty ordinary...Struggles a little with the main stage Beaten up by a better team and 4 cheats Omg those photos of Horse spraying Heeney at 3QT. **** me Anyone who thinks we are a realistic chance at a premiership is kidding themselves. We were found out today just like in GF and again let down by poor coaching. How we were not primed for today, after 2 soft kills, is nothing short of poor preparation but the coach, and not for the first time. Broke our back in the last. 11 goals is insane, pretty much only them and Collingwood could do that much damage in a last quarter. I sometimes wonder why I follow footy, a loss is always so deflating haha. Even when we got thumped in the grand final they never kick more than 6 in a quarter. 11 blows the game out of proportion. My Favourites: Several contenders After witnessing the Port autopsy thread, I’ve come to appreciate what a measured, philosophical bunch we are in responding to loss. I think I'll go and watch a murder documentary because I definitely want to commit one after that lol

That report by Browne is wrong. King is out of contract next year but not a Restricted Free Agent until 2026. Before 2016 it needs to be a trade. I read the other day that Coll have plenty of sal cap space 😲 Ess probably also has. Saints will have if they can move on a few of their highly paid recruits. We are the only ones that has the trade currency this year.

Is it? It is the number of memberships (products) actually sold which is accurate and verifiable by auditors etc. We all know that number is greater than the actual number of members but it is not wrong nor inflated.

Besides Buddy the two Sydney additions are interesting; both small/medium forwards. Hall-Kahan appears to not have played an AFL game and Sheldrick (their first round pick in 2021) has played one. Their website says: "Angus Sheldrick (28 disaposals) and Hugo Hall-Kahan (21 disposals, one goal) also feature in the extended squad after their impressive performances in the VFL" Looks like Longmire has a specific plan. Maybe he is going for the high pressure, run us off our feet approach and rely on a small(er) forward line. It will be interesting who comes out for them and for Buddy.

MELBOURNE In: S.May, J.Jordon, J.van Rooyen, M.Hibberd, B.Laurie, L.Dunstan Out: A.Tomlinson (omitted), M.Gawn (knee), J.Harmes (personal reason) New: Jacob van Rooyen Last week's sub: Jake Melksham SYDNEY In: L.Franklin, H.Hall-Kahan, A.Sheldrick Out: None

The title of this thread is 'Membership Tally'. It is not 'Members Tally'. So discussion herein is for the number of memberships, or using your word 'products' sold. Memberships (or products) is the AFL's KPI - it is not something used by mfc or other clubs to dupe the public or other stakeholders. Noone is pretending that the number of memberships equals the number of members. I don't know why you persist in telling us the difference when everyone understands the difference.

True it is harder for Vic players but when a player is out of contract and they want to move, these days a club has no leverage and in the last 5 years players get to the club they want to go to.

No idea of his reasons but it made me think the Hawks may lose a few talented youngsters. A few commentators this week openly called out Mitchell's deep list cull as 'Tanking'. Today's breed of youngsters aren't going to accept ruined careers like some from yesteryear, at a club that is a perennial loser for the first half of their career. It is much easier for a player to move clubs now. I wouldn't be surprised if the Hawks lose quite a bit of young talent for that reason.

This week he has a job to do: help JvR and Grundy even if it is off the bench. He can rest after this week when we play Eagles, Ess, Hawks and North.

Some folks need to look at the GF 3rd qtr again. Jackson was directly involved in at least 5 of the 7 goals in its last 10 minutes. I would go out on a limb and say we would not have had that 3rd qtr run on without him. Sure the run on would not have happened without the mids but Jackson not only did the CB ruck work giving them first use of the ball he also ran with his midfielders to link up play creating goals for them. Would we have won without him? Maybe but it would have been a hard slog to come from 3-5 goals down at 3/4 time. As it was we sailed home. Our run on broke the Bulldogs. We gave Jackson the opportunity to play and develop with us and in that 3rd quarter he paid us back in spades. He doesn't deserve the rubbish said about him in this thread. That is best kept for Freo and Bell; the real protagonists in this.

My read of the article is that we will sign him on the same basis as Chandler and Turner: two years with the first (2024) as a rookie then promote him to the senior list in 2025.

Goodwin on van Rooyed debut: young-demon-to-make-debut-against-high-flying-swans "He's trained with these guys for a few years now, so he's got pretty good cohesion with this group already, and one thing you'll see from big Rooey is his ability to compete aerially," Goodwin said. "He goes at the ball hard, he creates a contest and his follow-up at ground level is exceptional. "We won't be asking him to do too much other than that for us." Nice way to keep expectations of him realistic. JvR effectively replaces Max in our fwd line so we won't need Grundy for that role. TMac is there to help Grundy ruck at CB and fwd 50. And to be our marking target when exiting our d50. It helps that if Ladhams is out, Sydney have no experienced ruckman. We will miss Max's towering presence but reckon we have his role covered.

The last time Viney was stand in captain we massacred the Lions on the MCG. He has his flaws but his 'follow me' style of on-field leadership is underrated on here. Lead from the front and he can leave all the tactical on-field stuff to others who are more than capable in that regard.

There is a bit of fuss about Daisy being in the Winner's change rooms in her role as a ch7 commentator. Richmond and Lions have banned her because of a perceived conflict of interest with her assistant coaching role at Geelong. Good to see Matthew Richardson outline why it isn't a conflict of interest and thinks there is a 'double standard' at play. afl-legend-calls-out-double-standards-over-daisy-pearce-ban

And The Age tipsters are 7 to 4 a Melbourne win which surprises me. Maybe those for us haven't looked at history, not that it is everything. Given how bad the Bulldogs are and our loss to Brisbane, I'm not sure our performances so far are anymore noteworthy than Sydney's two mammoth wins. Still feel they have the edge. But hope the team bring it home for Oliver's 150th!! Edit: Haha, Fox tipsters have it the other way round: 6 to 2 Sydney!!

Just came across this article: judd-mcvee-mcg-debut-melbourne-demons-family Quite a realistic view from his father about being in and out of the team. This comment from him caught my eye: "Christian Salem took over his development, Steven May has been huge for him as well and Jake Lever was pretty good there, so he learnt a lot in his first year," he said. That support extended on to the field, Mr McVee said, with Dees midfield leader Angus Brayshaw providing a crucial boost on the day". Interesting that Gus is referred to as our midfielder leader - I guess he takes some of the workload off Lever to marshall the midfielders defensively, especially in May and Salem's absence. The words of a very proud dad: "There's a photo of him with the ball tucked under his arm and he's just smiling, running down the middle of the G, it's awesome," he said.

DEMON IN LINE FOR EXTENSION Melbourne has started talks with defender Judd McVee and is poised to extend the rookie's contract after an impressive debut against the Western Bulldogs in round one. McVee, who was recruited with pick No.16 in the 2022 NAB AFL Rookie Draft, has shown significant promise since joining the Demons alongside fellow West Australians Jacob Van Rooyen and Taj Woewodin. The East Fremantle product played 19 games for Melbourne's VFL team last year and was part of its premiership, graduating to the AFL backline against the Bulldogs, where he did not look out of place. A two-year deal would likely see the 19-year-old move off a rookie contract by his fourth season. Melbourne has been pleased with the skilful West Australian's ability to defend opposition small forwards while also providing bounce from the backline. Once rated an early draft prospect after earning All Australian selection at the NAB AFL Under-16 Championships, he has been mentored by premiership defender Christian Salem. – (Nathan Schmook) When he was drafted I likened McVee to Salem as footy IQ and skills were noted among his assets. It is great to see Salem now mentoring him.

In the last trade period, the club gave Harmes the ok to look for another club. He all but had a meeting lined up with Scott (Ess) who chose not to meet him. He is contracted to 2024 so may look for another club this year. Otherwise he is an Unrestricted FA next year so that may be the time he moves on. Joining his childhood club as a rookie and winning a premiership with us would be all his dreams come true. I doubt he would be on big $ so it would make sense to try and secure his future in both $ and years somewhere else.

Giving them credit. While looking for updates I came across this banter: Removing myself from the desire to absolutely thrash Melbourne this week for a moment, congratulations to Clayton Oliver, who is playing game 150 this weekend. Very few players can say they're a great of the game before they've even played their 150th game. One of my favourite non-Swans and an absolute freak. Hope it's a shocker for him. Hopefully spends most of the game chasing our mids. For me he is just about the best player in the game. An absolute monster in the contest and nearly impossible to stop. Love the match up in this game.. the two current "kings" of the mids in oliver and tracc vs imo the fastest rising stars of the mids in the game in errol and chad IMO he would be the best player in the game, and the only challenger would be his own teammate in Gawn. I suppose over the next 4-6 weeks we'll now find out how much one has to do with the other. Not often Oliver gets praise from opp fans. Good to see some Sydney fans honour him for his 150th. But now that I've given them credit, i hope he burns their midfield, has his best game ever and leads us to victory. Couldn't be a better way to celebrate his 150th than against a team that has the wood over us.