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AFC echo's Brisbane stuff up with Voss last year. 2013 Brisbane tried to high-jack our approach to Roos: Melb WON!! 2014 Adelaide tried to high-jack our approach to Goodwin: Melb WON!! Real turning point for our Club!!

Smart man if he signs. He is only 37 and 2 years with The Master will give him much needed experience and maturity as a coach before getting the hot seat all to himself. Also, MFC seems a lot more stable off-field than does AFC atmo

True as in 2013/2014 he had a lot of bad luck with loss of Tippett, draft picks, Tex and the late Dean Bailey. He did himself no favours by trading the much loved Bernie Vince. Nor when he whinged and whinged about the weather in Brisbane sounding like a child rather than an AFL coach. Nor when in his EOS presser he complained about the players and pleaded for coaching help. Probably valid comments but wrong place, wrong time and wrong delivery. As the year went on he looked sounded like someone out of his depth.

I stand corrected

As I understand it PP's and comp picks don't count when it comes to using the 'next pick' for father/son. Therefore if we trade our 2nd round pick then the next pick we have for Billy is our 3rd round pick. Assuming StK don't use their pick 1 for him or course. So it would be a safe bet that he will come with our 3rd round pick.

So would about 80% of current AFL players!!!. Doesn't make him a champion. Also, he is a super sook!

Sorry Song...some good highlights but not so great given he has been playing for 15 years. Longevity does not a champion make.

I'm guessing there would have been a few performance clauses in an MFC contract...performance clauses for on-field and off-field behaviour. If my guess is right his payments would increase as he demonstrated required performance. Otherwise MFC would be taking all the risk. These may have scared him off a little...so perhaps chasing an easier way at another club. Wouldn't be surprised if his suitors take the same approach tho'. Irresponsible or foolish if they don't. Up to Mitch to decide what he values the most.

If we take him as a delisted FA it will dilute our Frawley compensation presumably

If the pies/bombers don't take him Mitch may end up like Dusty Martin last year and have to eat humble pie and return 'home'. They both seem to have dopey managers trying to shop them around. Should Mitch decide to 'return' to the Dees it would be like our prodigal son (assuming he hasn't burnt all his bridges at the club). I would be very happy to say all is forgiven and embrace him again as I don't think all of this is his doing. I'm guessing most of us on DL would feel the same way.

That they are 'vanilla' personality player types!

We could get Gwilt for nothing either by him being delisted (as we did Daniel Cross) or he can go into the rookie draft and we take him with our first pick. Could be a better result than giving up a pick or player in a trade for HL.

Yes, gobsmackingly unthinkable...at least back then we had the consolation of 5 flags in 6 years...

Does that mean he wants to get paid twice for 2015 if he comes back to us?

I'm with you hoopla. This worries me! The last time a very highly respected, successful coach gave the thumbs up was Malthouse to Neeld (and Scott Watters). Look where that got us. Even acknowledging that PR and PJ are pretty smart, Goodwin looks more like 'the best we can get' rather than the best out there. Being at the bottom is not the best time to go shopping. Would rather wait till we have a bit more success and can attract the Best there is.

I'm thinking that Roos may have some concerns about his work rate at training. On 360 Roos said something like when he spoke with Mitch he explained that he had to put the effort in at training and not just the fun game day stuff. It sounded like Mitch had to prove himself in many ways even if he came on board. Lots of things seem to be working against Mitch being at the Dees.

OK, humble pie time. Never occurred to me that it was the MFC that didn't want Mitch unless it was on their terms. I was wrong assuming that it was Mitch who jilted us. Very happy with the club position - our way or the highway!

Victorian WorkCover Authority to probe AFL on supplements scandal after complaint Someone (anonymously) has asked WorkCover to investigate the AFL itself. Probably just another red-herring by the Essendon camp! Or an attempt to ensure that their fines get rescinded, get their draft picks back and setting a scene so that they can pass the buck to the AFL if the players raise a class action and sue the Club. EFC's disingenousness knows no bounds. Still blaming everyone else but themselves.

At which point the site will go into meltdown and the mods won't have to shut it down to enforce a cooling-off period on us.

Sounds like the old break up line of: 'I still love you, I will always love you, can we be friends'. Anything othe than you will play in the red and blue is just spin. Won't cut it Mitch.

The real tragedy is (after all us DL's calm down) Mitch going in this manner will do untold damage to supporter's hope and ultimately memberships. He has no idea in the oh so many ways he is hurting this club. Unless he says he is playing for the Dees on Talking Footy tonight anything he says will sound like spin to me.

Presumably because he had his own agenda and wanted to milk the MFC/Misson goodwill and facililties for all it was worth. No wonder he gets depressed he must suffer from being guilty an awful lot. No wonder he didn't go to the B&F. Wouldn't have the courage to look anyone in the eye and given what GNF said Roosy probably would have biffed him one...I jest but the imagery is good! Have all the 'dark clouds' over our beloved club now gone?

Convenient for Mitch,eh? Who is going to challenge it! Given your excellent posts previously I'm glad I stuck up for you yesterday. I just knew it had to be a case of the Club being blindsided rather than you/your sources being incorrect. Thanks for the great feedback. While this isn't calming like your posts on Mitch usually are its good to have a bit of fact thrown into all the hiatus. Thanks.

Or else they get him for zip in the pre-season draft or rookie draft or whatever it is called. They have the 1st pick in all of them!!

Patarick Smith just said the word he has is that the team is St. Kilda. If not right pls don't shoot the messenger, in this case me!