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I'm struggling with the thought of listening to Lloyd for 15 minutes or so. Would someone mind posting where he has ranked Demon players🙏

It really surprised me that Lever was identified as the Demon https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2022-players-who-need-to-lift-from-every-club-biggest-ratings-drop-off-analysis-down-on-form/news-story/d818efb5dfa214c5aa637d5e5d594ff1 JAKE LEVER (MELBOURNE ) 2021 Games: 25 2021 Rating Points: 12.8 2022 Games: 7 2022 Rating Points: 7.2 Change -44% The biggest drop off for Lever from 2021 has been his intercept marks (4.1 to 1.7) and intercept possessions (10.3 to 6.6), while as a result he’s recording less disposals overall. But still one of the premier defenders in the competition, Lever has set a much higher standard than most other defenders in the competition. To my eye this 'drop off' hasn't been noticeable. Some could be attributed to his pre-season foot injury and the corked thigh a month or so ago both of which would affect his leap and speed to get to a contest. But I'm inclined to think opps are trying to reduce his influence by not kicking high or isolating him away from their attacking lanes reducing the intercept opportunities. imv there are various players I would have chosen before Lever. Nonetheless, it will be interesting to watch how the season pans out. But tbh if the team continues playing the way we are one stat for one player doesn't amount to much.

I 100% understand it is not about draft pick number. Have another look at the post I was responding to. Kent'was implying JT messed up by picking Weideman and not McKay or Curnow. Drating is a bit of a lottery as my examples showed. Draftees don't always work out as the club or fans would like.

JT can't get every pick right. In that 2015 draft: #2 Josh Schache - Key forward. Played 68 games. Not tin regular 22. Trade to WB #6 Aaron Francis - Key forward. Played 54 games. Not in regular 22. In the 2014 draft: #1 Paddy McCartin - Key forward. Played 45 games. At Sydney And neither does everyone else. Overall JT has done a fantastic job!!

Probably not much. Just rolling the dice that marquis players don't get suspended. They play! Nothing to lose but a mere $10,000.

Yes, especially when other contenders are loosing good players.

Yes, I got that wrong! Apology to @FritschyBusiness

Last week Buddy got 4 of his 5 goals against a kid who had played less than 10 games. Not saying he won't kick a heap vs us but he can be contained. Play or not we have time to prepare.

I think it was during the Freo game before the result was known. The poster feared we would take the loss out on Sydney.

Draft order herein https://www.womens.afl/news/94642/what-picks-does-your-club-have-indicative-draft-order-revealed?_ga=2.79748183.1539775283.1651801920-1058869341.1629262583 Saints have an extra 1st round pick (but lost their 3rd round) and the GCS have an extra end of 2nd round pick - special assistance apparently. WCE also seem to have a draft pick upgrade. Dees, Adelaide and LIons forfeited first round picks for not giving away enough players to total the 28 pts iirc we anticipated the dilution of picks in this expansion draft and made some good trades for high picks two years ago so forfeiting a pick int he mid - 20's this year is no great loss.

As if Goodwin or any of the players are going to say half the team was ill! They respect the opps and Freo deserved to be respected. Longmuir saw that Petracca and Petty were hampered, that May was off. He made all the right moves at half time to take advantage of them. A lesser coach may not have made the right moves. Goodwin is no Chris Scott who bleated illness after the Prelim. While true, we annihilated them and he came across as a sour grapes, sore loser. Not sure he gave us any credit in the post game press conf either. We deserved more respect. I'm pleased the club has kept the illness close.

Review undertaken at the end of 2020 by the same people who are doing this review. No idea what they expect will be different. This has 'scapegoat' vibes around it - maybe Dodoro and assistant coaches! They are hoping to do a Thompson, Hardwick, Goodwin assistant coach change that then delivers a premiership very quickly thereafter. But tey do reviews, fiddle around the edges and get rid of someone: Neeld, Worsfold and now others but they don't solve the underlying problems because they refuse to acknowledge their messed up recent history and won't look past their sense of entitlement.

BB was a 'close contact' and the rules changed just after he came out of covid protocols. Close contacts no longer need to isolate. So Lever, Viney, Jackson, Petty, ANB, Pickett and Sparrow all had covid.

Having prepared the 'What they are saying...' threads for a few months, I'm surprised how decent opp fans have been. There has been the odd but rare nasty poster, which I don't bother including. The most common sentiments are: respect, fear, awe. This probably wasn't always the case. tbh there are more nasty posts on DL toward our opps and their fans in the pre and post game related threads. Shall see myself out...

Bigfooty Before our Freo loss We go in with absolutely ZERO expectations of a win so should be no pressure on us. Look at it this way: We lose: we get a better draft pick via our first. We win: we get a better draft pick via Melbourne’s first. Happy days. I'm low key confident we'll win this game. It'll be the first game where we put in a 4 quarter performance. As for this game, it really comes down to Melbourne. ..it is only natural they're due to drop their intensity and lose a game. It is just a matter of whether they do it this week against Freo or next week against us. They are due a stupid loss, and I would love it to be us but I reckon it would take a full four quarter effort with very few brain fades. Gonna win this by under a goal and the post game thread celebrations will be going for a while May out helps but if they drop freo they will destroy us Mommy I'm scared After our Freo Loss I had a feeling either Freo or Swans would break Melbourne's win streak, I guess Freo got there first. Is back-to-back losses too much to ask Unfortunately for us, Melbourne couldn't wait one more half of footy before putting the cue in the rack. We now face the best team in the comp with the added spice of having a point to prove. Anything within a 30 point loss will be a respectable outcome for us. Melbourne will come out absolutely firing next week to dispel what happened last night. We just gotta go with them, not saying we win , but think against the best we usually bring from full effort and fire up Sure, they'll re-group & plan for a game without May - but I do sense we're catching Melbourne at a reasonable time. I reckon Warner will be like a cat on a hot tin roof this week. Saturday night at the g, against the best team in the comp with the 2 best bulls in the game playing in his position. He would be frothing at the mouth to get out there this week... ...I guarantee he will be looking for a moment to put either tracca or clarry on their [censored] this week to really announce himself Dees loss to Freo has done us zero favours. Hard to see Petracca having another shocker. Can we just forfeit, will be a massacre. The matchup I’m really keen to see but unsure if will happen due to injury is the flying Ed Langdon v Jmac. I still think Jmac is not full speed from his knee injury but would love to see them go at it streaming down the wing of the G. Can see the former 400m runner Jmac reeling him in. Just hit them hard from the get go pressure and intent goes a long way to winning any game. Swans are 1 and 3 against the current top 8. That’s not finals calibre. July 16. Freo at Optus. The stuff of nightmares. By comparison, this week is a walk in the park. Of course Melbourne get back Salem, McDonald, Harmes and Langdon this week. You just knew this would happen. I honestly don't elevate Melbourne to these lofty heights that some have. They're a good side. No doubt. However they have their weaknesses. They were exposed and out coached against Freo on the weekend. Trac is carrying something and coming off a bad bout of the flu, I'm not too scared of him this week. After Buddy’s Appeal Announced. If he gets off it will be because he's Buddy. It's worth doing. I'm genuinely terrified of what Gawn, Oliver & Petracca will do to us if we have our usual 20-40 minutes of nap-time. We have any lapses against that trio and we can forget about any comeback as they'll put it out of reach, something that Carlton, Brisbane, Richmond etc. all failed to do. Watching it again just now on 360, not sure how we're going to argue it though when the second had a much bigger follow through so can't really be argued as the same action as the first lol. It's a different Melbourne team this week: Harmes, Langdon, Salem, McDonald, a healthierPetracca. Freo didn't have to deal with them. If you head butted me, I'd ******* punch you in the face too My favourite Buddy challenge is interesting. Wonder what the hell they can actually argue... ..that cotchin is a [censored]. LH note: The DL censor has spoilt the joke. Censored word is a translation of: Richard Cranium.

Both great marks! It seems the loss has caused us to gloss over these achievements. moty-demon-duo-nominated-for-high-flying-efforts Vote for our guys: https://www.afl.com.au/mark-of-the-year The other contender this week is Goldstein. One of Sam's best contested marks. Loved seeing Charlie flying high. Well done guys.

I had a different interpretation. It was a chance for Petracca to learn what his body can and can't do. Really, neither Petracca, Goodwin or the Doctor would know how it would go until they tried. We don't know whether the illness was ok during the day but got worse as it went on. I think someone posted that he was seen vomiting at the ground. Anyway, we had limited options on who to play instead of him.

Agree he has a right to be peeved off but I come from the school of 'praise in public, criticise in private'. He had options. Even Steven May said he had to curb his on-field demonstrativeness to teammates. Parish clearly cares for their preformance but for mine making a beeline for the likes of Kelly isn't showing care for a teamate's wellbeing or being a 'good teammate' to use a demon term. Interestingly, Rutten walked up to the group for a few seconds, walked away and let Parish continue. Not sure what to make of that...

Encouraging news for Petty according to our Doc: “MRI has cleared him of any structural injury, and he will look to full train this week leading into our game.″

Usually Tuesday night.

Votes Really didn't expect any dees to get votes but Oliver deserved votes for his first half but only one of the coaches gave him the credit. 8 Rory Lobb (FRE) 8 Michael Frederick (FRE) 5 Sean Darcy (FRE) 3 Brennan Cox (FRE) 2 Clayton Oliver (MELB) 2 James Aish (FRE) 1 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE) 1 Lachie Schultz (FRE) Coaches Split 4/4 or 5/3 to Lobb/ Frederick 5/0 to Darcy 3/0 to Cox 2/0 Oliver 2/0 Aish 1/0 Brayshaw (Freo) 1/0 Schultz. Coaches roughly agree with Lobb and Frederick. Then all over the shop But 5/0 for Darcy is seriously weird!!! One coach didn't rate him 🤔 Leader Board Oliver still in the lead. Max has dropped out of the top 2o. 63 Clayton Oliver MELB 58 Lachie Neale BL 53 Patrick Cripps CARL 50 Christian Petracca MELB 48 Andrew Brayshaw FRE 44 Callum Mills SYD 42 Jeremy Cameron GEEL 41 Darcy Parish ESS 40 Touk Miller GCFC 40 Bailey Smith WB 39 Jack Crisp COLL 39 James Sicily HAW 37 Charlie Curnow CARL 35 Sam Walsh CARL 31 Jordan De Goey COLL 31 Hugh McCluggage BL 31 Jack Sinclair STK 31 Tom Stewart GEEL

Darcy Parish went on quite a rant yesterday - his diatribe lasted over a minute. No respect for his captain or care for his teammates. From the 15 sec mark of the video herein: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/i-hate-that-three-afl-greats-split-over-bombers-stars-tense-clash/news-story/c8f6e072256055e13e3b6e3d0718367a Such a bad attitude. Ess is in a very bad place.

A lesser known player won't get off. Buddy had deliberately already struck Cotchin on the chest with an open hand. The one on the chin again was deliberate with a closed fist. The Tribunal should give due weight to this being behind play and bad for the optics. Not to mention potential to do harm Of course being Buddy those things will be conveniently ignored.

I would quickly duck for cover when @WalkingCivilWarsees that!! Unless she decides you are trolling and ignores you...

On SEN Goodwin just talked very confidently about Gus staying.