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I bought one of these. Great cause. Very happy with the T. Credit to the Demon shop - it arrived within 3 days of order. Sadly, I can't wear it to the MND game as I'm attending a luncheon for my Collingwood supporting sister's birthday but I look forward to proudly wearing it there and keep fingers crossed we win.❤️💙

In many cases you are right. This has gone so far to the distortion of circumstances to create headlines that refusal to answer would trigger a new round of 'what are dees hiding' It would be a hiding to nowhere.

Whately barracks for Geelong. He would have bitter memories of nd 23 and PF in 2021. He would be very happy to see us drop from top 2 or even from top 4. And if we lose to Collingwood the whole sh-t storm continues until we win again which could be weeks away. And I just can't wait (Not) until the media start talking about our 'privileged', silver tail club whose players go to posh french restaurants. That should set off a feeding frenzy to his talk back audience for a few days.

The club has liaised with the AFL. They have agreed to mfc actions and penalties imposed. Last night he tried to compare it to the Shane Bolton nightclub incident where the AFL stepped in and imposed a $20k fine. The AFL stepped in because Richmond didn't tell the whole story, said 'nothing to see' and took no action. The Bolton story is worse than May as he belted a member of the public and Richmond failed to act. Not sure that Bolton ever apologised. Whately knows all that but it suits his agenda to not tell the complete Bolton story. It will be a very bad precedent if the AFL, having been involved, steps in at this stage as it will be in response to the bloodlust of the media. I don't often give the AFL credit but I very much doubt they will want to be seen to be led by media pressure.

Not sure what Goodwin can add. Unless more stuff comes out before his scheduled pre-game press conf I hope he just plays questions with a straight bat and subtly steer the press snake pit to Daniher and MND. Hopefully, footy tonight takes over as the main topic. It is really sad that the May saga has completely overshadowed Daniher and MND. Hopefully, the club gets that back in the limelight where it deserves to be.

The Freo loss I put down to having 3-4 key players missing and May, Petty and Petracca going 'missing' during the game. And in the second half they won in the middle because Petracca wasn't there and they tagged Oliver. Then kicked to our shortened backline and game over. We ended up with a lot of ins that weren't as used to playing our system with each other and quite a few played out of position. So imv it is an outlier. True, Sydney isn't the first team to do the things I mentioned. But they did a heap of other stuff that others haven't and made it a complete 'package' and unfortunately for us they all worked. I doubt it will go there way again. We learn each week and adjust.

Sydney closed the exits from d50. If that failed they corralled our players against the boundary b/w d50 and the middle. Then we reverted to 'hot potato' handballing in circles until it was turned over straight back into their f50.. Our handball chain didn't get going. Our players played as if the hand ball chain would just happen. There were several times a defender handballed to a player and stepped forward ahead of the ball to receive, instead of laying a shepherd. The receiving player was tackled, ball spills free. Turnover. The defender was to far forward of the ball to defend the turnover. I get the theory being discussed in prior posts about defence and offence etc but lets also look at what happens in actual games.

All this chat about OUR offence, defence and contest sounds like we play in a vacuum. Nowhere near enough credit is being given to the impact of opposition game and tactics. Sydney's tactics were brilliant. imv those tactics rather than fatigue, loading, injury, missing personnel etc. were why we lost. Their tactics may have contributed to fatigue or skill errors but they outworked us and outsmarted us. Goodwin didn't identify Longmire as one of the hardest coaches to coach again for no reason.

A summary would be appreciated. A choice for whom?

Well, that isn't very exciting🙄. I thought you had a new name to give us.

Clues please 🙃

Thanks Andy. Excellent leadership by Max. I wish the AFL would put mics in the audience for press conf so we can hear the questions. So frustrating to try and guess from Max's answers.

Someone asked about CCTV. Entrecote is a fancy establishment so it is unimaginable that the restaurant doesn't have security cameras inside, especially in reception (where the desk was allegedly damaged) and outside its premises being so close to a train station. And there is a fair chance the staff would have filmed the scuffle on a phone if only for insurance claims . The tabloids would be at work trying to dig up the videos! Sadly more trash reporting likely to come. Based on some reports in this thread Entrecote's management is far from impressed so hopefully the guys have come completely clean on what happened and they and the club apologise to Entrecote quick smart. It would have been a good move to do so before and in the press release.

I'm guessing none of our leaders were there. We know Viney wasn't. And it is a safe bet Lever, McDonald and Gawn were home with their families and bubs. So May and Melksham were probably the most senior players attending..

Who is telling the media what May said to set Melkdsham off? Hopefully, none of the other players there nor someone at the club. Before we hang May for his barb to Melksham about the GF we don't know what came before it. It is unlikely May or anyone would throw that into a conversation out of the blue. I can think of some friendly sledges toward May that may have prompted his retort to Melksham. Then it all went pear shape. Nothing excuses all the things that were wrong about those events but context is important regarding what started it. Whatever started it, the right penalties were given.

They both have to do community work to atone there mis step.. May gets the added penalty of a suspension because he was drinking while injured which is a big no, no.

She takes up the coaching role at the end of the AFLW season when she hangs up the boots. "Pearce has one of nine positions across the AFLW, with the successful women able to take the up the minimum two-year role between now and 2025, allowing the Demons star and other AFLW players to continue playing if desired".

Probably as unhappy as this: Any chance we can get Alan Richardson to get the beers into Petracca and Oliver so they can bash the cr@p out of Fritsh.

Not much until the Steven May news dropped. Then it turned decidedly more optimistic. tough, tough game. Pies by 62 Best ruckman in the league Darcy Cameron to take Gawn to the cleaners When Sydney got up over the Dees I thought that made our task nigh impossible but now I'm thinking their confidence has taken a hit and if we get the jump on them it might create some negative mindsets. Pendles played brilliantly on Oliver at the SCG against them last year, would like to see that matchup again. Petracca looks injured… Sidebottom may have the tank to run with … Gawn is dominating aerially, but Cameron is a top mark for a ruckman, so should at least be competitive against him. The vibes are looking good for this one which means....Dees by 52 points!! Can't see us winning this one, I can only hope that we remain at least competitive and put a fight and it doesn't turn in to a flogging. Hahaha I’m trying to stay positive and I hope they prove me wrong! I think if we bring our best game like we have the past few weeks and maintain all game then yes we may be a chance! If it is fine I think our pressure may get us there. Frothies May strikes again xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Excellent news!! What? Unravelling at the Dees, they don’t feel comfortable being winners We are a sneaky chance of winning this game now. I think we are, been ordinary without him, still would rather beat them without the excuses. We were already a good chance in my opinion. Up to our eyeballs now. duck me. That's Collingwood-esque. Huge bonus for us, as without May the D's back six definitely struggle, as they don't have anyone who can really play his role.... Fritsch is Maynard’s b-tch The Dees would be furious about this, considering the whole build-up to this event is based around The Big Freeze and fighting MND, not fighting your teammates. Daniher would be so gutted with this effort. Expect a flat and half-hearted club to take the field while they work out what the hell is going on inside their heads. My favourite: Any chance we can get Alan Richardson to get the beers into Petracca and Oliver so they can bash the cr@p out of Fritsh. Oliver pays pretty much no attention to his opponent (prob because he has the ball all the time).

One report has it they were at 'Entrecote' which isn't exactly the local 'parma and beer' place. It is a pricey french restaurant in Prahran. If they were dining in either the bar or the restaurant and the scuffle was on the premises the management and other patrons would not have been impressed. If they were at 'Entrecote' just as well the players self reported. The club would have heard about it, pronto!

That may be so but binman said at least 2 weeks in his comments supporting last year's loading program which wasn't correct.

Is everyone going home today and watch the GF again to get the good vibes back!

But they don'! Last year they had 11 days between rnd 13 and rnd 15 games. This year the break is 9 days.

All we need now is for the 5 second video of Hunt and Brayshaw having what looked like grumpy words in the Syd game, for the media to really go to town and declare: the wheels have fallen off!!

May gets the suspension for drinking while injured which is a big no, no. It was a repeat offence. No option but to suspend him. "Steven and Jake will also complete community service through one of the club's community partners to ensure they understand the responsibility and impact they have as role models within the community". Penalties look appropriate.