Lucifers Hero

Excuse my ignorance but what is a 'money kick'. Has another americanism crept into our great game?

But he can't be perfect...

For those in this thread complaining about Petracca's goal kicking you might like to note he received votes from both coaches again this week: 6 votes in total. He is now 3rd on the Leader Board.

Votes: 10 Clayton Oliver (MELB) 6 Christian Petracca (MELB) 6 Tom Sparrow (MELB) 4 Tom McDonald (MELB) 2 Luke Davies-Uniacke (NMFC) 1 Aidan Corr (NMFC) 1 Charlie Spargo (MELB) Coaches Split 5/5 Oliver 4/2 or 3/3 Petracca/Sparrow 4/0 McDonald 2/0 Davies-Uniacke 1/0 Corr 1/0 Spargo Leader Board And Oliver takes the lead : 61 Clayton Oliver MELB 53 Patrick Cripps CARL 50 Christian Petracca MELB 49 Lachie Neale BL 47 Andrew Brayshaw FRE 41 Callum Mills SYD 40 Bailey Smith WB 39 Jack Crisp COLL 38 Touk Miller GCFC 38 James Sicily HAW 37 Charlie Curnow CARL 34 Jeremy Cameron GEEL 31 Hugh McCluggage BL 31 Darcy Parish ESS 30 Max Gawn MELB 30 Sam Walsh CARL 29 Shai Bolton RICH 27 Jack Higgins STK 27 Jayden Short RICH

Oliver is often spoken about as the best player in the league. But he doesn't get the general plaudits he deserves like Bontempelli, Cripps, Petracca etc because he doesn't present well in the media or for sponsors. It is wrong but that is the reality. But maybe he is like Dusty and doesn't like media work and lets his football do the talking. All credit to him if that is the case. Hopefully, all is put right when he wins the Brownlow. Maybe Max and Petracca can take a low profile for the rest of the year and let Oliver get the umpire's votes.

Langdon missed round 12 last year and we beat Brisbane 14.13 to 11.9. Because of covid it was played on the neutral Giants Stadium. He was tagged out of the game last month vs the Hawks and we won.13.13 to 11.15. It was at the MCG With or without Langdon our system will prevail. It doesn't mean we will win but if we don't it won't be because Langdon is missing. And by the way, what an unbelievable effort to kick that very difficult goal after having his ribs smashed into.

Generally, I like Gleeson's articles but his commentary in this is a bit off the mark the-player-carlton-cannot-afford-to-lose He may be right in that Carlton can't afford to lose Weitering but he isn't the 'best defender'. There are a few others around. "Weitering is the best defender in the competition at the moment. He is as hard to beat one-on-one as any player. He is confident to intercept mark high up the field but also enjoys being the deepest defender. He uses the ball well but likes to share it. His numbers are fairly mid-table. He is not the most prolific intercept marker and does not pick up the most intercept possessions. He does not tackle crazily. He does not amass volumes of the ball. He is good at spoils – he is third in the league – but it is not the only feature that distinguishes his game. He is a not a player who is quantifiable by stats other than to say he just does not seem to get beaten". Weitering is a star and he may be Carlton's most important player, if only because their defence is shaky but that does not make him the best defender.

Fair enough. Tbh, I haven't read much that concerns me but agree there is always room for improvement. Nonetheless, as Goodwin says: we embrace imperfection; we don't try to play a perfect game. As to what other posters 'concerns' are, I'm in the people 'suffering old-fashioned MFCSS' camp.

May I ask what is there to be concerned about? Genuine question.

Yes, if Langdon is out we have some interesting options for the wing role. For mine a 75% Salem is better than a 90% Baker. If we want speed on the wing we could move Hunt there, he also knows Langdon's running patterns again spent 2021 linking up with him before becoming our lockdown to small forwards. And Salem goes back into defence. Another option is Spargo on Langdon's wing as another player familiar with ball movement. We would miss him in the fwd line but Bedford's defensive work yesterday was excellent. With this option Salem doesn't play. This week's selections will be a bit more interesting than usual unless Langdon is able to play which would be good against his former side.

Thanks. I'll go back and correct post.

In: Viney, Salem. Out: Dunstan, Langdon Yep, Salem. Players with as many pre-seasons and as match hardened as he is often do not come back via the VFL. If Langdon wasn't injured we could give him the luxury of a game at Casey. Also, I reckon Salem is the best replacement for Langdon on the wing. His smarts and kicking i50 will make up for Langdon's speed. He knows Langdon's role really well having spent last year linking up with him for rapid, overlap ball movement.

You might need to watch the last quarter again.

Good chance Bulldogs will be in the 8 next week. Swans (7th) and Tigers (8ty) play each other. If Bulldogs get a good % boost vs the Eagles they will replace one of them. Reckon it will be short lived given their draw. Carlton's top 4 position will be tested in the coming months. After the next two rounds vs Eagles and Ess they play 6 of the top 8 teams. Credit to them for hanging on to beat the other top 8 team: Sydney. Not sure about their ability to do the same vs most of the other top 8. Win next week and we will have a 3-4 game and % lead over 5th. Difficult to see us falling out of the top 4 from there.

I'm surprised to see a negative thread when we are in our most successful streak for two generations. We are winning by 3-8 goals each week. On scoring, the whole team has a very poor G:B ratio. Would Petracca's or anyone else's scoring accuracy make much difference to 10.0 season and a 161%? No player is perfect so not sure why folks are nit picking one of our very best, week in week out, even when playing injured. And look at the big picture. His contribution to TEAM scoring this year: Ranked 1st in Total Inside 50s Ranked 1st in Total Goal Assists Ranked 1st in Total Score Involvements Source: Footy wire. The coaches have shown what they value: last week he kicked 2.4 but received 9 coaches votes! He will be in the votes again this week.

They were booing Parker for his sledging of Shiel last week. Why they would care about an Ess player being sledged is beyond me.

Voss is teaching them the right way and doesn't expect everything to click this year. McKay will be back and if McGovern ever becomes a professional in his preparation and recovery they will be strong additions. They don't have a lot of weaknesses. They were ferocious for the first half last night. They will learn to do that for 4 quarters like we have. They play for each other like we do. Over the pre-season Voss will make some list changes to an already strong list. He will strengthen their all field defensive work. Next year is the year to be concerned about Carlton.

AFL prime time FTA criteria: Win games. Big memberships. Blockbuster games. Bulldogs fail miserably on the first two counts. They have won 4 of 9 games for goodness sake! The AFL is hoping they come good as they have lots of games vs top 8 teams which might be blockbusters. If they don't it will be a big flop; just like all the Friday night games they gave Carlton a few years ago. And the flop that will happen in a few months when Ess have 3 consecutive Friday night games. The Bulldogs will be lucky to make the top 8 as they need to win at least 8 or 9 of the last 13 games and build some %. Just can't see what the Bulldogs attraction is to Ch7! They AFL should have waited to see if the Bulldogs win today before they put their chips all in on them. Lose and top 8 becomes even more unlikely. The AFL should stop making 'captain's calls' on teams they want to promote and reward those that fit their criteria.

I'm guessing the crowd would be about 50/50. The AFL would allocate the same number of tickets to each club for members before sales to the general public. We would outnumber them in the MCC stand and they would outnumber us in the AFL stand. Then it depends what the 'neutrals' do. Can't imagine any self respecting Ess, Rich, Coll fan barracking for Carlton🙄. As unpalatable as it would be for them barracking for the dees would be the way to go🙃. Or, they stay home.😐

Yes, not sure what the email means by 'scan' the membership card. The GA tickets for the QB game are already on the mobile membership. There is no bardcode with them. Not sure if GA membership tickets have barcodes on the mobile app. Best to call the club to check the finer details

Players and Coaches don't care: Anytime. Anywhere. Anyone. Sponsors do and Pert may need to explain what the AFL is up to.

@ElDiablo14 Re your QB ticket question in the 'Fixture' thread. Yes, the QB game is a replacement for the Alice game. Yes you can walk up to the G and get in as a GA entry. The club sent an email to members on Monday which said: If you’d like to reserve your seat for a discounted price, you can enter your barcode into the box provided on Ticketek to upgrade. You can also purchase guest tickets and access up to 10 tickets in one transaction. Round 12-15 ticket on sale details below. Members - Tuesday 17th May 2:00pm General Public - Wednesday 18th May 11:00am YOUR BARCODE(S) ...................................... Alternatively, simply scan your membership card like you would at any home game and you will be granted general admission access subject to availability.

We may end up with that as a defacto result as 18 into 10 doesn't go. To avoid diabolically poor games they will have to fixture the 4 new teams and last year's bottom 5 or 6 teams against each other. Last years top 9-10 teams play each other. As I and others have mentioned the result will be that poor teams will play finals at the expense of good teams, like they did when we had 'Conferences'.

Somewhere in South Melbourne?

Coaches have mentioned trying different game tactics in games. Maybe Melksham is to experiment with ball movement into our fwd line. The # of points we kick says our fwd work isn't as good as the rest of our game. And, by now other clubs have done their homework on us and working out tactics to counter our strengths. If we change up our mid to fwd ball movement it helps make their ideas less damaging and give us better scoring accuracy. Good timing to change aspects of our game with Freo, Sydney, Pies and Lions over the next month. Even if Melksham doesn't hold his spot if we are trying something new and it works the selection will be a success. Lets not look at Melksham's stats but at the role he plays.