Cranky Franky

A big disappointment because a few years ago I thought he was going to be a top player. Lacks a physical edge to his game & instead of trying to take the game on invariably takes the safe option & goes backwards or sideways. I reckon he is cooked.

Like him a lot - love the dash he provides but needs to play to his limitations as he is not the most skilful player going round ie don't try & centre the ball in the corridor to players who are surrounded & don't try & deliver millimetre perfect passes across the back line.

Brisbane get a priority pick whereas Melbourne did not despite Brisbane winning more games in the preceding few seasons. What an open accountable and transparent competition we have. Well done AFL.

Just to remind us how lacking in integrity and transparency the AFL is Brisbane get a Priority Pick. Melbourne were denied a pick a few years ago despite having a worse record than Brisbane. Nice work Gillon.

The way that a number of WB players stepped up in this year's finals - think Johannisen, Hambling, Picken & a few others reminded me that in some finals series it is not the stars or the established players that do the job but ordinary players who get on a roll & play above themselves. In 1976 when the Dees got on a roll to make the finals it was nondescript players like Ted Carroll & Terry Wilkins who played out of their skin & got us going. In the run of 1987 Duursma, Tony Campbell, Newport & Chiron were all inspired. I know some will think this is trivial but I find it an interesting point. Maybe next year Spencer, JKH, Garland & Harry O will fire up & get us on a roll. ,

All looking good so far but next year is critical as he will get more attention. Many players have had "breakout seasons" only to go backwards the next year.

"Big Jack" ??? I only heard him called Big Al or Sideshow Bob.

Yes spot on - a good depth player & versatile to boot. Still handier than some still on the list who are lucky enough to have contracts. I reckon the Casey capitulation would have sealed it for some of the borderline players. like MJ.

Totally agree with this. Terrific first year. Also needs to be a bit more physical & aggressive at the contest like Hunt & Jetta. Sometimes his approach is a bit timid & he reminds me of Garland.

Yes but as many Demonland posters are extremely self righteous its interesting to go back over the record to see who got it wrong. I've stuffed up plenty of times in my calls. Most supporters just want us to win more games & Stevie J would have certainly helped us do that in 2016. There are a number of premierships that have been won with "discards" - you just need to pick carefully.

Most Demonland posters at the time thought he was useless. 43 Goals so far. Can't help thinking he would have been very handy in helping us win a couple more games & teaching the likes of Petracca how to kick straight.

Picket Fence You are obsessed with pace. Not sure if you noticed but some of the best players going round are not at all quick. Its more about quick hands, peripheral vision & ball use & BTW if you can tackle well that is handy as well. Glad to see almost everyone disagrees with you about JT.

Melbourne now has Petracca, Oliver & Brayshaw to rotate through the midfield so they can learn the game which has meant that Bernie has to play back. Agree that his second half of the season has been poor.

It seems to me that both coaches and players are drilled to the extent that they have become robots & can't think outside the square. I remember a time during games when full back Danny Hughes was thrown into the ruck & went on to win a B&F ditto Alan Johnson from wing to back pocket. Rod Grinter going from half back to FF & won a game for us. Tony Campbell from FF to FB. These days if plan A doesn't work you do nothing.

I'm not going to criticise Paul Roos because overall he has been wonderful for the Club but the match day coaching yesterday was terrible & arguably cost us any chance of a win. Selections were poor. With Garlett out the obvious move was to bring in Kennedy Harris or Ben Kennedy for their crumbing ability & I thought Salem was the obvious replacement for Harmes. Also why on earth drop Pedersen who has been handy & is a strong body in wet conditions. To the game - Carlton have 3 dangerous players Cripps & Gibbs on the ball & Simpson in defence who sets them up. None of these 3 had a hard tag. Vince who was scratchy in defence should have gone on to Cripps. As is was we were beaten in the clearances & centre bounces. The team failed to adapt to wet weather & continued to overuse handball usually until they turned over the ball. Melbourne allowed Carlton to have a spare defender most of the day which resulted in them taking lots of uncontested marks. Dumb, dumb, dumb match day coaching. And seriously in this day & age why do our players have the wrong boots on & keep falling over.

The point is that unlike most players on the list who have had to show their wares at Casey Oscar virtually came straight into the team. In his last couple of games he has probably played to the level that Dunn has shown although Oscar has arguably cost us a couple of games in the process. Why they rushed him & also persisted with Frost up forward still has me scratching my head.

Yes Footy Records. To Django thanks for your interest. I'll give it a couple of days & respond on Monday.

Hi people I was cleaning out my shed & came across about 30 of these programs from that era. I'm happy to give them away to a Melbourne supporter who collects this stuff but please not to someone who will then sell them on Ebay.

I'm sure Oscar has been put on this earth to annoy Melbourne supporters. Last week he looked like he was injured & would miss a couple of games then he makes a miraculous recovery & plays anyway.

Coaches are only s good as the cattle they have. The more pertinent question is which recruiting team has done the best job since Jimmy Cardwell.

Only about 6 weeks late. Its a worry when supporters are ahead of the Brains Trust.

Most posters on this site have totally missed the point. This was about payback from Eddie after Caro suggested in an article that after 20years he should have a succession plan in place. Whenever Eddie or Collingwood are criticised instead of addressing the issue Eddie always goes the man (or woman). Caro is generally a good journo but she has sold out to the AFL by being their mouthpiece at times. She also goes pretty soft on Richmond. In any case there seem to be very short memories here on Demonland because there were dreadful things said about her in the past when she has criticised the MFC.

Jack Trengove I mean. We are all wrapt to see that he has made a successful comeback & we all wish him well because he is a great bloke & fantastic club man however on the basis of 2 games back is there a spot for him on the list next year ? He still looks pretty slow and if he's only going to pick up 20 odd touches a week he is going to struggle. Remember Brayshaw, Salem & probably HL and ANB will come into the team at some stage. He looks too slow to play in defence or up forward

Fully agree. Paul Roos has done a fantastic job but him & the Brains Trust have made some dreadful selection blunders in the past 2 years. A couple of big bodied experienced players should have been brought in for todays game and Grimes should be in for sure. Lets hope we don't have a repeat of the Port game where Roos admits afterwards that they lost the match at the selection table.

Who are the flankers ?? You are kidding me. The current ones are Hunt & Wagner. Then at Casey you have Grimes who can't get a look in despite outstanding form. Then Garland and Mitchie who has done ok. Then White who is also playing well. Then Lumumba and Salem who are out injured. Plus Bernie Vince & Jones who Roos has been playing at half back during games. That makes 8 decent HBF. And lets not forget Milkshake. Midfielders & HBF are the 2 areas we have well & truly covered. Frost, Tom & Oscar are a long way from being able to deal with quality tall forwards that's why Riewoldt & Daniher & Pavlich chop us up every time we play them. We couldn't handle Jack Redpath, or Justin Westhoff or Darling or Kennedy The Club should be chasing 1. Key defenders 2 A back up ruckman 3. Goal kicking small forwards.