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It was probably coming after he missed the CEO position. Then the sideways/backwards move was the last straw. Interesting though that he wasn't their first choice.

'Jimmy' me lad. The job was never done, it was half a....rebuild. Roos taking the money and running without getting his man. Jackson in some too and fro with the Prez, not able to complete his job. It was never finished.

I think Dodo must have pix...he might win. Can't see any other reason he has kept his job.

The interesting thing here is going to be a clash of philosophies. Josh likes to get a deal done and looks for a win/win. Dodo...wan't win at all cost and couldn't careless about the other party. Will it work, who's will will win in the end?

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/josh-mahoney-appointed-essendon-football-manager-20201208-p56lo8.html Says Mahoney, recently departed Melbourne?

I'm not disagreeing 'Lucifer'...let's hope they keep up the good work. ...but imagine if they didn't have the father/son picks? Also think Buckley has had an easy ride with his mates in the media...might change next season if performances drop off some more.

They have a great get out of jail free card in father/son picks. With another Daicos due soon and Kelly back from injury to go with Moore and Daicos otherwise they would be a mess.

Does it have to be??? If he experienced the behaviour he says he did at Collingwood and his account has been backed up by teammates then it's just not good enough. ...and that should be all that matters. What's this point scoring got to do with anything? Maybe I'm off the mark here 'Cranky', but I don't think so.

The drama was amplified by a media just waiting for the next zinger from crazy mixed up Heritier...they couldn't get enough of him, it helped build a narrative about him. There he goes again... Some of his views maybe over the top, maybe he's just trying to get his point heard. ...it doesn't change the fact that he suffered racial abuse from people who should have known better, people who purport to support their people. It's pretty obvious despite all the window dressing that in the end he wasn't one of their people. They don't respect diversity.

Good for them, but it doesn't give them a free hit. If what you say is right then Eddie should know & be better...

I'm with him on this one... I don't see any reason for an inquiry, it's an Eddie snow job. Don't want to own up, set up an enquiry and muddy the waters, a classic political ploy. Collingwood should have done what St Kilda had the courage to do and just own up & apologise.

I would think your first point is most definitely right. I'm not so sure that Russell Jackson is a left wing journo. I don't know anything about him but he has written some very good articles of late.

I read this totally differently to you. I was embarrassed about some of the opinions I had of him based on some pretty biased reporting. It reminded me of how all encompassing & powerful the AFL brand/bubble is. All the rhetoric coming from the AFL & Collingwood is just that. They/we have a long, long way to go. ...and yet you remark about him being self obsessed. Is it any wonder... I would say he's very introspective & has been trying to find his place in the world. Unfortunately he's been let down along the way, firstly by his father & then by other authority figures who should know better...Bucks, Eddie & Gill to name a few.

Just read this from the ABC site...well written, extremely challenging & eye opening. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-05/heritier-lumumba-strength-in-african-culture-collingwood-afl/12820942

I've always had an issue with this stuff. A lot of beliefs held in sports science don't actually have any science to back them up. As seen above, when the real science kicks in they've been found wanting. In AFL land it's often follow the leader...that's why we got altitude training, hyperbaric chambers, pre season commando camps, the Kokoda track and on and on we go..........

Paul Roos let us down. Left with the job not even half done.

I think you are wrong 'D' but let's check back in maybe around 5 years time and see who's right. I don't think he's only a ruckman, he's got more strings to his bow than that.

Totally with you here 'Dee'... He has so many strings to his bow I'm sure we won't restrict him as a pure ruck and use him were we need him best. Even Goody said he could be used as a mid. Goodes is an excellent comparison.

The old play the free gig for exposure routine... You can only live for so long on love then you gotta put food on the table.

I don't necessarily agree on this... Whilst I'm sure his flag at the Hawks fills him with pride. If he had won one with the Dees after going through the hard times with mates he started out with it would have just that little bit more value not the Hawks one of lesser value. ...but as you say, a flag is a flag and as I say, they're hard to come by...good luck to him.

Totally with you here 'Macca'...I think we wanted him out the door to get the extra pick in lieu of a priority pick that the AFL weren't keen to give in name but gave us as compensation. Chip played some good footy for us but the last year went through the motions as we did by playing him forward. Club and player were in a holding pattern. Plus, he was a better player than most give credit for, a bit unlucky not to pick up the Norm in his premiership year. Good luck to him if he can get another year out...

If you're confused, how do you think he feels....

Not just top 4...we made top 4 in 2018 and went out playing poor footy. Didn't recover in 2019 for whatever reason. Treading water in 2020. Must be better than just top 4 in 2021.

Like the look of his highlights 'Chaser', wouldn't be disappointed to pick him up.

If he's not clean air ground level then I would be concerned...couldn't see that being a first round trait.